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EXCLUSiVE: A Yuji Naka Interview ~ For the fans

13 July; Author: TRiPPY

So, you know me.

I try my luck and sometimes I tend to push my luck a little, lol just ask SEGA. But on the rare chance, sometimes it pays off. Like this, for example.

Recently while on the NiD15.com bandwagon drumming up support,  I decided on a whim, to try directly contacting a certain Mr Yuji Naka. Yes, I know how unlikely that is, how famous he is and how rarely he gives interviews so I didn't think he'd have the time to reply to me. But I'd heard rumors about his total love for NiGHTS into Dreams, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to take a chance and ask.

Guess what? He replied. Very quickly :)

Saying that I was surprised to see the topic "Yuji Naka has sent you a message" waiting in my inbox is an understatement. I had a total surreal moment wash over me. There were language barriers though, with me not being able to write Japanese and him not being able to write much in English. I figured because of that then communication with the man would stop there. Still, I tried my luck further and asked him if I were to get a translator in to help us communicate would he still be down for doing an interview? I had my doubts. Yuji Naka has a lot going on at the minute with PROPE… and here I was asking for an interview about NiGHTS, a game that was released in 1996. I was ready to give up hope when I recieved another message saying that he would indeed love to do an interview on NiGHTS for the fans.

…wait, what? Really? o.O

Yes. Really. Yuji Naka has given NiGHTSintoDreams.com probably one of the best interviews we could have ever hoped to obtain. Aside from our translator, there was no other middle men involved in this interview taking place. It was just me and TRiP asking Naka-san about NiGHTS. You couldn't get any closer to the heart of NiGHTS than this. Direct from the creator to the fans.
True fact, Yuji Naka had sent his reply to our questions on NiGHTS' 14th Birthday but we were not able to have it translated in time. I always say better late than never though and this truly is one of those moments.

If there is one man that NiGHTS fans need to thank then it would be Yuji Naka. I sometimes think that as a fanbase we take for granted the person hugely responsible for us having this cherished game in the first place. True, there were a lot of other people involved in making NiGHTS into Dreams the classic it is today but as far as higher-ups go you couldn't get any higher than Yuji Naka. He envisioned so much and really gave his all to the game. Taking good care of the character while he was still head of Sonic Team. Now, over 14 years on the fans are still here stronger than ever. I'd like to think Yuji Naka succeeded in what he set out to do for us with NiGHTS.

We wanted to ask him questions that general gaming sites and magazines hadn't asked him before. The geeky fan stuff. Less about the technical side of things and more about the heart and purpose of the game. We had 24 hours to think of the things we wanted to know the most. In the end 18 questions were put forward. Things that had been picking our brains for a very long time.

The NiGHTS community is smaller than Sonic's and moments like this come rarely. However, I like to think that makes them all the more sweeter.
I'd like to thank Yuji Naka himself for answering every single one of our questions and I'd also like to thank Kichigai and her mother for translating this interview for us in the first place. Takashi Iizuka and Naofumi Hataya, thank you also for helping out ;)



Yuji Naka: Thank you very much for loving NiGHTS. Today (5th July 2010) is NiGHTS' 14th birthday.  Happy birthday NiGHTS.

Nidcom: NiGHTS resembles a jester and the Nightmaren are very darkly circus themed. Is there a reason as to why this specific design idea was chosen?
Yuji Naka:
When the idea of the Dream World was imagined, The Jester like character was created rather easily.  Their duality (cheerful and happy as well as, dark, evil and mean spirit) fit well to the theme of the Dream World.

Nidcom: Is it true that Cirque Du Soleil played a big part in the inspiration of the game design? Was there a show in particular? A NiGHTS Cirque Du Soleil show would be fantastic!
Yuji Naka: It was Cirque du Soleil that contributed the most inspiration for creating NiGHTS. At that time, Mystère was playing at Las Vegas' Treasure Island.  I was so overwhelmed by the imagery of the world of Mystère when I saw it for the first time.  Even to this day, that is one of my favorite shows. I hope that a lot of people will go to see that show. Cirque du Soleil is great.

Nidcom: Is it true that the very few character voices in the game were recorded anonymously by team members who were working late at night in the offices? Can you tell us a little about how the random dream language was created? Is it partially Japanese?

Yuji Naka: Yes, it was true. In every character, a few words from our team members’ voice over were used. We were recording at night because our office had no sound proof studio.
The word for NiGHTS, "Adeema", or the words for Reala, "Beadichnoa NiGHTS" were created by Mr. Iizuka after much reflection. 
Each word actually has a meaning. 
Adeema = abayo (which means good bye in Japanese slang). 
Beadichinoa NiGHTS = come on NiGHTS, Etc.


Nidcom: One particular thing NiGHTS into Dreams is always praised for is the music. You captured a lot of genre's of music in one game. Does the music in the game reflect your own personal tastes in music and what are your own preferred types of music?
Yuji Naka: The background music for NiGHTS was a magnificently composed piece. Of all the games I have created, the music of NiGHTS is my favorite. I remember that I had goose bumps when the orchestral recording was played.  Personally I like to listen to everything from pop music to movie soundtracks and stage musical scores.

Nidcom: One of the reasons NiGHTS into Dreams is very popular with female gamers is the character of NiGHTS erases gender stereotypes, which is rare in gaming especially today. Was this idea there from the beginning?

Yuji Naka:
Men or women, we all have dreams, so I thought that the residents in the dream world shouldn’t have a gender, rather, the form of the characters should be determined by the person who is dreaming.


Nidcom: Do you ever get tired of people asking what gender NiGHTS is? *lol*
Yuji Naka:
This setting was unique and never seen in any other game. It is understandable that questions about gender would arise, since European languages have gender specific words.

Nidcom: Is there meaning behind the lower case 'i' in the name NiGHTS? Some fans speculate that it may stand for 'imagination' or 'Id'  from Freudian research.

Yuji Naka: The "i" in the logo, was imagined from the gem on NiGHTS' chest. At first, the logo design was created to distinguish the word NiGHTS from Nights. NiGHTS was then used throughout the game.


Nidcom: NiGHTS into Dreams has a lot of symbolism, you and Sonic Team did a lot of research into dream studies and Jung's Dream Archetypes. It is speculated that each character in NiGHTS is influenced by a specific Archetype. What Archetype inspired NiGHTS,  if any?
Yuji Naka:
NiGHTS, a hero, originated in “Shadow” which means another side of the self as defined by Jung in his dream definitions. Elliot and Claris, who have strayed from the dream world, originated from Jung’s Animus and Anima. Persona items that appear in the Wii version originate from Jung's dream theory, too.


Nidcom: Other than NiGHTS, is there any other character in NiGHTS into Dreams that you really like and why? Jackle seems to have a large following, as does Reala.
Yuji Naka: Of course NiGHTS is my favorite, but Reala and Wizeman are two of my favorite characters because they contribute to constructing the outlook of the dream world.


Nidcom: Many years ago I read an interview with Sonic Team where the sources of dream research were discussed. Jung and Freud were mentioned but a third name 'Friedrich Holtz' was said to be central to NiGHTS into Dreams. Can you tell us a bit about this man and how his work influenced the game? We have tried to research Holtz for many years yet we have found little about him.
Yuji Naka: He is one of the psychologists who followed Jung's thoughts. He too defined dream elements as much as Jung, and showed us "another world" which we called the “Dream World.” NiGHTS also reflects the thoughts of scholars who researched these dreams.


Nidcom: It is now well known that there was an idea for a boss called Selph. What became of this boss, why did it not make it in to the final game and what did the boss look like?
Yuji Naka: Selph is one of the original types of Jung's theory. This idea was omitted since the production period was short on time. It was thought that it would be introduced as a concealed boss, as the one defined as "Myself I could never be exceeded". Visualization of this character was made to some degree.


Nidcom: Is it true that in the 1990's a PC version of NiGHTS into Dreams was planned? There was a rumour that it existed at one point and one of the new levels was called 'Sparkle Attic'? Can you tell us more about this, perhaps?
Yuji Naka: I thought production was completed. Wasn't the PC version put on the market? I actually participated in the release of the PC version of NiGHTS in Akihabara. So I thought it was on the market. But this is for sure, there is no new level.
See: http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20030321/sega.htm

Nidcom: (The above is news to us!) This means that non PS2 code exists to create a port!

Nidcom: Is it true that when developing the control pad to make flying experience as immersive as possible a NiGHTS-shaped controller was designed?

Yuji Naka:
Yes, it was true. We developed the control pad with the thought of the game player feeling NiGHTS' flying more realistically. The shape of controller was made the way it was after a lot trial and error. Most importantly the player's grip should be as natural as possible when they play.


Nidcom: NiGHTS is considered to be one the most magical, inspiring and mischievous characters Sonic Team ever created, continuing on through dreams long after the game has been won. Has NiGHTS ever appeared in your own dreams?
Yuji Naka: Of course. NiGHTS came from your dreams too. Being so, NiGHTS will keep living for a long time.


Nidcom: What do you think is the most important part of creating games?
Yuji Naka: Most importantly how much would customers enjoy playing. Especially in NiGHTS, how much fun the feeling would be when they played the game.


Nidcom: NiGHTS really has captured the hearts of many people. It is rare for a game to effect people in the way NiGHTS has been able to. Looking back, you said one thing you hoped NiGHTS would do is help people. Now, 14 years on, do you feel you had achieved that goal?
Yuji Naka: My initial goal has been reached and there may be more wonderful things happening. So many people loved NiGHTS for such a long time. I felt very happy throughout my career as a game creator, that the game influenced and touched the hearts of so many. Thank you so much for loving NiGHTS.


Nidcom: There had been talk of a NiGHTS sequel for many years after the Saturn game. The sequel, Journey of Dreams was made however you were no longer part of Sonic Team by that point. If it were somehow possible would you ever consider making another NiGHTS game, if you were asked to?
Yuji Naka:
I have been asked hundreds of times to make the sequel of NiGHTS, but have no desire to create one.
As I feel the same way that my beloved Mr. Steven Spielberg would never make a sequel to ET because it was his first work and such a fantastic film. I feel the same way about NiGHTS.
Oh, the first person to play NiGHTS, other than the SEGA team, was Mr. Spielberg. During the development of the NiGHTS game, he visited SEGA and we asked him to play with an experimental version of the new controller. Since then we called it the Spielberg controller.

Nidcom: We are hoping SEGA will listen to the NiD15.com campaign to have NiGHTS into Dreams ported to this generation of gaming consoles. Would you, the creator of the game, like to see the game ported so that this generation of gamers can experience the game too?
Yuji Naka: Creating an environment to be able to play the game for a long span of time, like a movie, would be very satisfying as a game creator.

Please continue giving your support for PROPE and SEGA.

中 裕司
Yuji Naka


So how's that for a trump card then? ;D NiGHTS fans- stirring the pot since 1996. Come talk about this interview in our [ forums ]



44 Responses to “EXCLUSiVE: A Yuji Naka Interview ~ For the fans”

  1. JasonA says:

    Great interview, was the very first Saturn game I ever played – I still have it, and the Christmas Nights too…

  2. Puzzlespider says:

    Awesome, very nice to read! Loved the interview. Yuji Naka seems very nice and you guys are great too ^_^

  3. Lifeforms says:

    Wow this is pretty cool and congratulations guys on a job well done!
    I had no idea others 'felt the love' so much for NiGHTS lol, but its great that there is a whole community on here.

  4. Level 99 says:

    I'm pretty speechless.  This totally made my day/month/year.  THANK YOU, NAKA-SAN!  And thank you, DiGI and TRiPPY.

  5. Updates says:

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  6. Alandria says:

    I'm speechless, too! O_o
    … no, wait. I can still THANK YOU.
    Oh, and I guess it solves the mistery around what NiGHTS and Reala say! XP And confirms that they're truly genderless – wait, even Reala?! O_o *imagines Reala dualizing with a frilly girl by accident* XD

  7. David says:

    Wow that was a cool interview! it would make sense that nights is genderless that the game about nights wont be just for girls or boys but are both. i love Nights so much because it has what i always loved since i was childhood, have nice dreams, live in peace, no swear words, magical powers and all the soundtracks were so sweet especialy ' dreams dreams kids version song. theres is a mascot that is very, very similer to nights. theres a character from namco name 'Klonoa'.
    Since now Sonic adventure is rereleasing to XBLA im really, really hoping to see nights from saturn return to XBLA to give all nights fans another chance to play and even new gamers who hasnt know about the character yet and even players who plays xbox only just for achievements  can checkout to try nights and hope to like the character for the future.

  8. Ozcrash says:

    great interview yeah
    he is so right to not make a sequel

  9. Sora says:

    Amazing!  This interview is great!

  10. skaternights says:

    Yuji Naka has touched the lives of countless people and I am ecstatic to read his thoughts on his masterpiece.

  11. Purgatory says:

    That was… I'm reading this AGAIN. This is amazing, and it makes me feel really good to see that NiGHTS is not just another creation, but just as loved and appreciated by Yuji Naka as it is by us. Thank you guys, and thank you Yuji Naka, for the interview!

    …And if any of you says "IF HE LOVED IT SO MUCH HE'D MADE A SEQUEL", I will personally scrape out your brain pocket with 3D controller.

  12. Realaz6 says:

    This is great! I didn't know Mr. Naka was no longer part of Sonic Team, though.  But this still realy great!
    Now…If they made a NiGHTS OVA… Or an anime atleast.

  13. Robert says:

    Nice read! About the 'PC version' of NiGHTS. Some years ago SEGA launched a couple of SEGA Saturn-titles *running with an emulator* on the Japanese PC-market. So this: http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20030321/sega.htm isn't the rumoured 1990 PC version, it's 'just' the Japanse SEGA Saturn version emulated.

  14. Minxy says:

    This was wonderful to read

  15. Windowlicker says:

    Great interview.
    Now, do Ohshima.

  16. iLLViLLAiN says:

    Yuji Naka is such a respectable man. I'm so glad he agreed to this interview. So many things that were unknown. My mind's pretty much blown at this point.

  17. RedTail says:

    Um, take a look at that B-Club signboard at the NiGHTS PC launch.  It also has an ad for Azel Panzer Dragoon (PD Saga).  Could it be that Saga, which Sega claims to have lost the code for, also got a PC port?  There's also signage for PD Zwei in another photo (another game they claim to have lost the code for).  If someone could translate the text next to these images, we might be able to find out what's up with 'em.
    Aside from that, very interesting interview.  Thanks!

  18. Andre Nesman says:

    Great Interview!!!!!

  19. SDreamer says:

    JoD never felt like a true sequel to me. Would have loved an updated NiD for the Dreamcast then, was so fitting for that system's theme.

  20. NEMi says:

    @ Purgatory: Make that the Spielburg controller. ;D

  21. Awesome interview. I'm quite overall impressed on the questions asked as well as the answered feedback presented from Yuji Naka, himself. What an outstanding dreaming performance! XD

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  25. ecco6t9 says:

    I am speechless at this Interview.
    I really really hope that Nights gets a port to the 3DS.

  26. Malan says:

    Great interview!
    Now we've got to find this PC version of NiGHTS °°

  27. TheLostSkeleton says:

    From what I remember, the PC version was for some subscription download service in Japan and it was just using a well-known Saturn emulator called GiriGiri (rebranded to be official Sega software, of course).

  28. Greg says:

    Fantastic interview! Thanks to you and of course to Yuji!

  29. [...] However it seems hopes for Naka-san to bring the series back to life have been dashed in a recent interview that appeared on the NiGHTS fansite, Nights into Dreams. [...]

  30. DJ Fob Fresh says:

    Awesome Interview…and I can't wait to play a port of NiGHTS~!

  31. Mariana says:

    Loved the interview!
    I'm so proud of you guys!

  32. sa says:

    HOLY CARP. What is this!? XD This is absolutely incredible. You guys never cease to amaze me with what you can get out of the big guys, ahahaha.  
    I'm so happy for you. And of course, a million thank yous to Yuki Naka for agreeing to the interview, and Kichi and her mom for translating. Awesome stuff! 
    Hmm… "Beadichinoa NiGHTS", huh? Well, now we finally know… everyone was wrong, lol

  33. Boy am I proud of you guys (I'll be seeing you two in 3 weeks time!). = )

    Seriously that is a big ask and well it shows that it pays to be persistent and patient. Thank you so kindly for sharing a piece of history in the making, even though I'm not as big of a NiGHTS fan as you guys at NiD.com I'm really thrilled that you had this amazing opportunity to interview the man behind the production and creation of NiGHTS.
    Congratulations once again again thank you! Be very proud. ;) *thumbs up*

  34. NiGHTSaturn (Félix) says:

    I hate you guys, BUT IN A GOOD WAY hahaha, you've been working so hard on the website for such a long time and you deserved it! Having the chance of having a little chat with Yuji Naka is still a huge dream of mine… Lucky Bastards! hahahaha!
    And thanks for sharing this with us, you good guys are amazing ;)

  35. TRiPPY says:

    "Windowlicker says:

    Great interview.
    Now, do Ohshima."

    – Trust me I've been trying to track him down for a while. Last I heard he was with Cavia. Anyone know if he's moved since?


    Also, Elson, 3 weeks, woah time has flown by @_@ 2010= fastest year ever. See you and the guys at SoS.

  36. [...] latest campaign. It’s a great read and I won’t spoil it for you here.  Head on over to nightsintodreams.com to read [...]

  37. NiNA(NiGHTS!!) says:


  38. Blueblur"edheloth"8lover says:

    Congrats for this!! i really loved the interview, i learned a lot of things that i didn´t know, pretty interesting! Is awesome that he acceed to such a nice interview good job!
    Sorry for my poor english.

  39. Nicky343 says:

    Hello, guys!

    I didn't have played neither the original nor its first port on Wii. I do not own both versions, but I have seen so many videos on many portals like Youtube. Nice game, really. Wish, I could have played, if it is relying on a scientific view on dreams by Jung (dream theory). I would like to recommend the game for my Japanese teacher, Dr. Kiyonaga, who is living in Halle/Saale and who studied art education, art science and aestethics. Because of his last study field, I would recommend it to him to play it as well as seeing some scenes of it.
    Please, Mr. Naka, leave a comment.
    My dream is to work as a translator for video games and the creators as well as their oppinions. I guess many of the Japanese creators are somehow misunderstood and I would like to tell others the truth!
    Best regards to your portal
    Nicky343 from Halle/Saale, originally from Chemnitz, Germany

  40. Nicholas Taylor says:

    Great interview! I agree with the sentiments of NiGHTS shouldn’t have a sequel. It was such a complete game to begin with. It would have been best to have a Wii port rather than a new game in my opinion. Journey of Dreams was a great game, but I wish that it didn’t have the NiGHTS name, and instead have all new characters. That way, I think it would have been much better received. I hope that the PC version is found and ported to the new consoles. I it isn’t the Saturn version running emulated as suggested in another post, because there are a lot of things in the Saturn version that could be polished – FMV, draw distance, distant objects fading in from baackground, mesh transparencies, model complexity, lighting effects, and ity would have been nice to have an online leaderboard of scores and replays I reckon, a christmas/holiday mode for the whole game + presents that can be be added to by Sega, including things like running Sonic around the levels. I thought they were great, and would be awesome to be available to owners of new consoles (or even a dreamcast version would be both crazy and awesome!)

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