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TRiP's other OTHER art
#481
Posted 05 May 2008 - 05:38 PM
(I'mexcitedtoseemusclesyesindeed. *staaaaaaaaare*)
I'm in the same boat as Wolf, I think; if you hadn't posted the list of main Gens before I would have no idea... well I still have no idea, ha. IT'S PiNEAPPLE DELiGHT, I KNOW IT! *dragged away*
Sorry for spamming up your topic with weird. I really am too excited. XD
#482
Posted 05 May 2008 - 07:26 PM
I have spent ALL (and i mean since i woke up at 7.30am) DAY. ALL DAY RAAAGHHHH. Fighting online with technical bullhoohoo about non compatible Vista art programs.
To save anyone ever going through what i did today:
Comicworks- English- V1.5 - WILL NOT WORK ON VISTA. It will ONLY work on Vista if you have the installer CD and follow the manual instalation instructions found on their japanese website (in japanese). And even then it still doesnt work fully.
Comicworks V2MAX- Works if you can import it but you have to manual install with JP instructions and then use it in Japanese text- Wheeeeee.
Manga Studio Debut 3.0 didn't work PROPERLY on Vista (pen tool was like using a retarded crayon) until some very nice person on Sweatdrop's forums told me to disable my wacoms PC extra functions... thing. I loaded it up and now it actualy works on Vista.
HUZZAH.
It was that or get a second hand laptop with XP on it. And I'm glad we found the cheap alternative!
URGH. So much of a headache from all that. Vista is so over complicated for what its supposed to do. Advice to anyone thinking of using Vista. Dont until about 4 years down the line when all the programs you need actualy catch up with patches!!
Now I'm off to eat something and then figure out how to actualy use Mangastudio. Because its really confusing after using comicworks...
Win.
#483
Posted 05 May 2008 - 09:36 PM
The price may be a bit higher than usual but in the long run you're going to be getting the best of her work. It'll be worth it. I promise you.
#484
Posted 05 May 2008 - 10:00 PM
Edit: You know, if I weren't going bald, once Lynne gets famous, I could cosplay Bruce. Maybe I'll get one of those hair restorations... and laser eye surgery... JUST so I can cosplay Bruce. I'll do it. >_> Don't think I won't.
#485
Posted 05 May 2008 - 11:26 PM
#486
Posted 06 May 2008 - 12:49 AM
A wig and contacts might be cheaper . Unless you want to become A REAL LIFE BRUCE, then that's a different story.I gotta say, I've waited long enough that it doesn't matter TOO much how much each issue costs. I'm totally buying it anyway. XD
Edit: You know, if I weren't going bald, once Lynne gets famous, I could cosplay Bruce. Maybe I'll get one of those hair restorations... and laser eye surgery... JUST so I can cosplay Bruce. I'll do it. >_> Don't think I won't.
I really want to know what color he is!
#487
Posted 06 May 2008 - 09:05 AM
Either that or stick with black and white Mangastudio tones... but the program (even though it works now) is horrible for me to use >_<. It makes hand drawn lineart import like poo and i have NO IDEA how to use the tones there. Such a confusing program T_T I dont understand the page sizes or anything.
Driving me mental because i don't know what to do.
Then i thought, maybe i shouldt call it a 'comic' but more of a sort of illustrated book or something... urge to hand paint rising.. but that's not very mangaesque is it? I want to do something unconventional not just copy the hoards of mangaka out there doing the same thing, because they do black and white better than i'll ever do and i excell at color and traditional stuff.
Head hurts, mgh, not sure what path to take. Will spend today mulling over my options before begining anything solid. Need to keep reminding myself that people do all sorts of comics and it doesn't matter if you dont follow the 'manga romg' guidelines. I should just draw and be done with it without stressing so much...
#488
Posted 06 May 2008 - 09:36 AM
I'd have to say, if you're going to trying to be published under a company that has colored comics, you might want to do that, so when pitching to them it shows them that you can do what they desire. But I do understand what you mean with the price and everything.Hmmmm to be honest I'm really really at a confusing point right now. Part of me wants to do a color comic because it's what im familiar with, but that would mean i couldnt afford to be lazy and cut corners with pattern tones, i'd have to draw them. But color costs so much for a single comic D: But at the same time i wouldn't be resting my laurels on Lulu because i want to pitch to Image eventualy. And all their comics seem to be color.
Besides, why be lazy? Wouldn't you like to see your comics as something you put everything into? That'd be something to be proud of.
#489
Posted 06 May 2008 - 09:49 AM
Doing stuff with screentones isn't lazy, good black and white work takes time and effort. And it's not just a manga thing any more, indy people use it too.
(It's also worth keeping in mind that if you keep the lineart it's not like you can't colour stuff later if you decide it would look better. Or even do a few pages both ways and see how it pans out in terms of time and effort and results.)
Your colour stuff is decent but I've always liked how you did B+W comics.
#490
Posted 06 May 2008 - 10:23 AM
I like the small amount of black and white stuff i done too, which is why it's driving me mad that i can't just jump into using this program >_< I know every computer thing has a learning curve but this thing makes me pull my hair out.
My original idea was to have the waking world in much muted grey colors and the dream world all technicolored and mad... but i think I'm being spoilt by choice here. Whatever i do i'll definately keep scans of the original inks so i could possibly do alternative color version techniques afterwards.
I just found some good tutorials here:
http://www.mangatuto...angastudio4.php
which is about as basic as i can find to just get my lineart onto a page.
I wonder what my art would look like if i got a hold of traditional tones and laid them on top of watercolors or something?
Maybe i should do one page in all options and then choose a type of way to go...
And lol i know black and white work isn't lazy (hell no it can be horrific XD ), i mean when it comes to stuff like pasting a premade tone image into a panel, posting in an entire building with one click and so on... that's harder to do in color XD Not that i will! >_> but i know a lot of manga people get other artists to do backgrounds for them. I'm going to be trying my hardest to pendraw all my backgrounds that have solid objects like buildings and so on.
That's one of the things that gets to me a lot, some folk can get really snobby if you dare to deviate a little in style or whatever in comics. I have no intention of pitching to TokyoPop to be honest, i never have, I'd rather just do a comic i feel comfortable with and see where it goes, rather than trying to win some kind of competition. I know RSOM can give new artists good promotion and that's great, but it's... well it reminds me of popstars who enter Xfactor really. I'm not into trying to win something, just draw.And don't worry about being 'Manga OMG'.
My style i primarily draw in is anime style (i blame sonic) because it's the style i like most, but with this comic i want to incorporate a lot of different ways i can actualy draw that i don't show off much. Something i adored about the Sandman series was how they'd get different artists in to do stories and their styles would vary greatly. The books of magic issues they done that featured the artist who draws Rupert the Bear inspired the hell out of me with those lovely watercolors and inks of his. I want to try things like mixed media, abstract stuff, all sorts of things to portray how each person dreams. So i guess people would dream in different styles too. Some people dream in black and white XD I know comics are mostly about the art, but i sort of want mine to be a carrier for the story i think.
#491
Posted 06 May 2008 - 10:32 AM
#492
Posted 06 May 2008 - 11:09 AM
A bw/colour split like you're suggesting could be really striking, especially if there ends up being some bleed between them. Hell, if people 'wake up' like they did in the old version, maybe their eyes become coloured once they do or something.
RE: Coloured tones, that could be cool to play with, you could colourise sections using gradient maps perhaps, or just layers set to 'colour', or turn the toned image into a layer mask and just painting the colours you want into it. Or you could do tones and have small elements of flat colour, which could also be very effective. I would really advise against just laying black tones over/under normally coloured art. For why, just take a look at the Witchblade manga (though god, don't actually buy it.) The screens of black dots deaden the colours and just look bad. You could pull it off with really muted colours, but you've never really been about muted colours.
Changing style from dream to dream could be cool too, like how Sandman does it sometimes (Particularly in The Dolls House).
#493
Posted 06 May 2008 - 11:16 AM
eeeeeeeeeeeee I'm excited! Now i can get back to what i was doing instead of stressing over technical stuff!
*foams at the mouth and runs off*
#494
Posted 06 May 2008 - 11:21 AM
#495
Posted 06 May 2008 - 01:32 PM
And TRiPPY, I'm really excited about seeing this comic, more and more each time you describe it. I really wouldn't mind if it cost more, because to me, it's worth it to have it in my hands. I really want to see you do this exactly how you want to do it in your style, with your attitude, and your spirit. Ever since you cut out all the other nonsense and just made this your thing, you've been putting out some amazing stuff at about a million times the speed you used to when you were trying to please other people. Now that you're pleasing yourself, you're pleasing more people than you ever did before. ^^ I'm really proud of you, and I'm looking forward every day to being able to read your comic for myself. No matter what, you should never give up or try to change your vision to conform to what someone else wants. You already see it best your way. ; ) <3
#496
Posted 06 May 2008 - 05:51 PM
#497
Posted 06 May 2008 - 06:47 PM
If it's this idea you've gone with, then I think it was an excellent choice. Knowing you though you've probably thought of something better .
#498
Posted 06 May 2008 - 07:21 PM
Remind me to commission you one day XD
#499
Posted 06 May 2008 - 09:58 PM
#500
Posted 07 May 2008 - 06:31 AM
#501
Posted 07 May 2008 - 07:08 AM
The idea of eye colours once they 'wake up' is a lovely idea, but also I think the parts that are set in reality could maybe not have a black and white look to it, but perhaps a sepia tone, which would work quite well (think of movies that have done this - the wizard of oz comes to mind here)
#502
Posted 07 May 2008 - 09:57 PM
PS. Bruce immediately made me think of Aaron XD;
#503
Posted 07 May 2008 - 11:06 PM
<edit>Oyyyy... it's so much more expensive, though. X.X; *decides to stick with asking for plain old Manga Studio* </edit>
Oh, so that's what the avatar's about. Thank ya for clearing that up. XD </offtopic>
*clears throat* Anyweh, forgot to mention in my last two posts that Brucey looks rather neat, and in a mellow sort of way that (to me) is unexpected of someone so muscular. He gives off more an air of refinement than most muscle-bound fiction characters I've read (which is very few, admittedly).
#504
Posted 08 May 2008 - 12:41 AM
PS. Bruce immediately made me think of Aaron XD;
It's clearly because I'm so awesome. Or... maybe 'cause I have blond hair. XD I should get myself a cool fuzzy wristband and a pink button to wear. That'll let the ladies know that I'm taken (or not interested).
#505
Posted 08 May 2008 - 06:49 AM
Originally, in the very early hours of his design being thought up, Bruce was envisioned with brown hair but we changed it to blonde because at the time we only had Falda with blonde hair and Andreanna's concept sketches had not been drawn up yet. We had a few characters with dark or colourful hair already so we decided to make Bruce blonde instead to balance out the character roster appearance a bit.
Once his character fleshes out in the story i'm pretty sure he'll have a fan following.
#506
Posted 08 May 2008 - 08:15 AM
Bruce starts off as a nasty stereotype and by the end of it is a changed man.... lol
As for what program I'm using now, teeheehee, I took all the high res screentones from mangastudio and imported them into photoshop, so now i dont have to mess around with that horrible program. Still wish Vista ran comicworks tho. Over a thousand screentones to play with now in prgram i can actualy understand.... mmmmm. *bought Mangastudio a beer, had her way and left without without giving her number*
As for where the unveiled dreamers come from/live here's a list
Falda- Sweden
Oliver- England
Emily- Australian origin/moves around
Zel & Heather- England
Adam- America
DeZ- Scotland
Madison- Canada
Andreanna- Germany
Priya- India origin/lives in America
Tatsuo- Japan
Bruce- America
Real captain planet cast going on here *snortlaugh*
#507
Posted 08 May 2008 - 11:48 AM
#508
Posted 08 May 2008 - 01:09 PM
And oh em gee. Captain Planet, he's a hero. You should do a spoof comic one day where they all combine their powers or something and make Captain Rainbow to battle the evil black-and-white or something equally goofy. Heh. Combination of Captain Planet and Rainbow Brite.
Speaking of Rainbow Brite, Bruce needs a pony. He looks like he should have a pony.
#509
Posted 08 May 2008 - 08:23 PM
#510
Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:31 AM
In other news I've still not recieved my proof copy of the Sapphire diary yet, it should probably turn up on Monday or something. Spending my time getting comic pages drafted, issue 0 nearly completely debugged by DiGi lol. He'll wake me up when im trying to get to sleep to point out glaring plotholes which i try to remember to fix in the morning XD; He mentioned something lastnight and im trying to remember wtf it was... oh yeah.
Really starting to enjoy this now. I mean i was before but passing bits of paper to DiGi and seeing his face light up as he reads the story bit by bit is so rewarding <3 Hope i can do the same for you guys ^^
#511
Posted 09 May 2008 - 10:20 AM
But, yus. It has been a productive week so far in terms of the Engelbaum comic. We've managed to correct any errors so it flows correctly and doesn't jump from one point to another. After all, this promo-issue is to set the background story for the entire thing. It needs to explain things well. TRiPPY's doing an amazing job with the characters speech. Their personalties are coming through perfectly. It's so cool seeing this thing being pieced together.
#512
Posted 09 May 2008 - 10:45 PM
#513
Posted 10 May 2008 - 06:56 AM
At one point Emily ends up in a place where she doesn't even KNOW what language people are talking (turns out to be french lol) so she just gets gibberish and keeps to herself so she doesnt have to talk to anyone. She has a problem with street signs however and spends a lot of time stealing dictionaries XD;;
As for the Gens, yup they speak one language. Dreams sort of unify their speech. For the sake of not appearing like a giant nerd (and creating Klingon lol) they speak English... but it's made obvious that they dont actualy talk english. (ie) if my comic was ever translated it would appear in the readers native lingo.
#514
Posted 10 May 2008 - 07:35 PM
#515
Posted 11 May 2008 - 04:58 AM
#516
Posted 11 May 2008 - 11:23 AM
#517
Posted 11 May 2008 - 06:19 PM
Got lots of work done yesterday because our router died in a thunderstorm D: Got a new one that actualy works.
SO in a nutshell issue 0 is complete in terms of script and pencilinings. Some of the stuff I'm drawing again, other stuff I'm tracing because i liked the doodles. So right now I'm inking.
Went out today to take photos of trees from weird angles XD people on the bus must've thought i was crazy haha.
Really really pleased i got the first issue in concrete form ^^ Got to do ACTSHUNNNN scenes too! Wheeeee!
#518
Posted 11 May 2008 - 07:31 PM
Do you think you'll have some "sample pages" available online so I can show my parents what I'm buying?
#519
Posted 11 May 2008 - 11:03 PM
I agree; seeing the original language with a translator present to tell us what he's saying (and nervously attempt to censor any bad language) would be cool. ^-^It's not the only one; ElfQuest and Heroes both use <pointy brackets> to indicate another language, usually with an editor's comment saying which language it was "translated" from. That could probably work in this situation, although I think if the scene has a translating character present then it'd be cool to see the actual language they're speaking. *le shrug* I guess we'll have to wait and see though.
#520
Posted 12 May 2008 - 03:32 AM
ahaha, you totally got that from Hiro/Ando in Heroes, didn't you? XD That sounds like it should be really interesting, either way.Tatsuo can't speak a word of English (and doesn't intend on learning either lol)(he's a fiesty highschool dropout) so he tends to speak gibberish around english speaking characters, having his friend Kano (who CAN speak English) translate for him back and forth (to amusing results).
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