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[Jof]

I've been thinking about this for a little while now.

What are your thoughts on Bellbridge Clock Tower ? The original Twin Seeds tower acted as the main set piece for the original game, the last level was set around it, a tonne of the promotional artwork featured it alongside NiGHTS, it's where Claris finally performed, where Elliot and Claris met for real... It's pretty important to the game.

As you've noticed, Bellbridge Tower is following this same trend. Featured in a tonne of promotional artwork with NiGHTS, it's mostly always seen in the background of the movies somewhere etc.

What are your thoughts ? Think the last level will follow a similar theme to Twinseeds ? Will it be host to Helen's performance ? What about the wierd looking numerals around the face itself ?

I know the topics a little vague, but I'm hoping that there'll be some new light shed on this later.

[viperxmns]

I bet the bell we hear in the music pack is the tower.. what else to say.. hm..

[TRiPPY]

I noticed that with the numbers too, is it Japanese?

[Jof]

Hm. If it is Japanese, it's a little out of place in such a British setting. .. Untill Seiya comes round or someone that understands Japanese can confirm, it's certainly up for theory. I thought Japanese just used plain old numerals though ?

I'm tempted to believe it's simply made up.. but why ?

It's certainly very similar to Roman Numerals. The symbol in place of 10 seems to act the same as X in roman numerals (IX = 9, X=10, XI=11).

However, the symbol for 5, V....

actually.. I think I've figured it. It's the same as V

Its I, II, III for the first 3. The the I with the bottom cut off and the I to it's left together = 5. And that works in the same principle as V.

In short mans terms. Its Roman Numerals. With different symbols for V and X.

[NNR07]

If what I heard 'tis correct, the town is suppose to resemble a clock.

It's pretty interesting, if you ask me, 'cause I love studying and looking at old and old-ish cities and scenery.

[Kichigai]

Those aren't japanese numbers unless you toss those first three numbers sideways.

They look like roman numerals in a funky way. Maybe that world has it's own language and number set?

[iLLViLLAiN]

It's a clock.

[Kichigai]

It's a clock.

We know it's a clock.

[Purgatory]

Kichi is all-knowing! >:3

Hmm.. I don't know.. maybe its another one of those things, where it shows how close Will and Helen are to each other. Just on the other side of that tower- and they haven't crossed paths yet. Like in the first one.

[TRiPPY]

It's the bellbridge equivalent of Swatch time. Teehee.


ITS A CLOCK NOVA :| *rolled up newspaper to the head XD*

In other thoughts regarding Bellbridge i wonder if Helen and Will actualy meet in this game awake/asleep as i really cant imagine romantic intentions between kids younger than Claris and Elliot. *shudder*
I really love the clocktower to be honest, but i wont overwrite TS tower, i just see them as being two different places. BBtower has DETAIL. I likes my details.

[Kichigai]

It's the bellbridge equivalent of Swatch time. Teehee.
ITS A CLOCK NOVA :| *rolled up newspaper to the head XD*

In other thoughts regarding Bellbridge i wonder if Helen and Will actualy meet in this game awake/asleep as i really cant imagine romantic intentions between kids younger than Claris and Elliot. *shudder*
I really love the clocktower to be honest, but i wont overwrite TS tower, i just see them as being two different places. BBtower has DETAIL. I likes my details.

Purg:

....*Covers head* Gwaa! D:

I do see a lot of relations to this game and the old one. I don't think there's any romance involved if they meet but I'm betting they will eventully meet each other. I'm keeping my sibling/split family/whatever theory in the back of my head. :E


OR they can go all ARCHIE on our asses and say it's a PORTAL TO ZEH DREAM WORLD.

[Purgatory]

OR they can go all ARCHIE on our asses and say it's a PORTAL TO ZEH DREAM WORLD.

I finally got my hands on those comics.. "They flew through the sky and went right into the ground.. Like TWIN-f*!*ing-SEEDS!"

*snort* Man I hate those comics.. it took all my strength not to tear them to shreds, because they belong to Alanora. XD But yyyyeah... I hope that nothing EVER tries to mix Archie crap in. Sonic or NiGHTS.

[Tangocat777]

You know, as apparently story-driven as this game appears tp be, it could many times more significant than the tower from NiD.

[EZEKiAL]

>=3 The clock tower is the final boss.

-shot-

[Curiosity Inc.]

>=3 The clock tower is the final boss.

THREAD OVER. EZEKiAL WINS.

[viperxmns]

Oh yeah, this time there's no egg clock timer thingy. Instead the tower chases you.

[Tangocat777]

LOL
Remember that pole-dancing mini-game idea? It gets a little out of hand, and later involves the tower.

*shot*

[Gun6]

Oh yeah, this time there's no egg clock timer thingy. Instead the tower chases you.

Lol, it'll just follow you and take up half of the level as it destroys terrain, ideya captures, and the invisible walls that exist to confine you. Oh, and it'll attack you with CHAAAAINS (bondage).

*watches the clock instantly appear out of nowhere and destroy Donbalon's (sp?) entire stage*

By the way, that guy's eyes creep me out. : /

[TRiPPY]

In an all out fight (godzilla style) which tower would win? That's the question tho.

[Feniiku]

Simple, Bellbridge would confuse Twin Seeds with its funky numerals, then kick it hard while it's distracted.


Or they'd just have a massive clock sized stare out until the thirteenth hour XD

[EZEKiAL]

In an all out fight (godzilla style) which tower would win? That's the question tho.

Twinseeds Tower would blind BellBridge's tower with it's funky light-type things...but then BellBridge Tower would come back with super high-detail Wii graphics and save the day...then NiGHTS would go super-maren and take them both down.

[Xay]

...then NiGHTS would go super-maren and take them both down.

Once again, EZEKiSL WINS. EXTREEEEME FATALITY. PERFECT!

Yeah! At the end of the game, Wizeman decides to Launch the Bellbridge Tower into space, then let it fall to Earth. Suddenly, the goverment realises it was Dumb enough to leave Nuke's plastered all over the inside, so it seems the Earth is Fucke. O BUT WAYT. Then suddenly, Out of nowhere, NiGHTS Pull's out the CHAOS IDEYA, And morph's Himself into SUPER NiGHTS, As he becomes all Red 'n Yellow, Reala into HYPER Reala, who's Red bit's Flash from red to Pink, and finaly MEGA Jackle, Who has annoying Gold Bird's Following him. They fight the ginat Marshmellow Monster that combines itself with the Tower. However, after roasting it alive and eating 'Smores, they realise that the Tower has become Sentine,t and falls towards Earth anyway. All3 maren perform CHAOS CONTROL, And the tower quickly returns to it's Normal place, Un-Sentient. Reala suddenly becomes Un-HYPER, And plummets to the ground and Dies (only to later get his own game, The House of the Reala, wherein he fight's zombies with machine guns to find his true purpose in life), Jackle becomes NiGHTS' Father, and later sorta becomes a Robot, after wizeman goes insane, Jumps into a Red Shirt and Black Overall's with a Yellow Cape, and declares himself the Almighty WIZE-EGG, And creates and Army of SWAT-MAREN, and Roboticizes anyone in his path (explaing why Claris and Elliot aren't in the Game). So, NiGHTS, Helen and William form a Band of Freedom Fighters, in witch NiGHTS Is bossed around by Helen, and William Idolizes NiGHTS And want's to be like him, until he sorta decides to kill NiGHTS, Causing a Big Fight.

SUPRISE ENDING.

Seriously though, as for the Tower, im not quite sure what's up with the Whacky Symbols. I think what Jof is saying about the Roman Numerals sort-of makes sense though.

[EZEKiAL]

[iLLViLLAiN]

I think Sonic just lost his job.

[^_^ Go Dreamer]

I think Sonic just lost his job.

I think so too! ^_^!

But about the clock tower, Maybe those symbols are something that SEGA made up, because it's like a cross between Japanese, and Roman numerals! Very strange and creative indeed! ^_^

But I'm wondering is Bellbridge's location close to Twinseeds? Are they some how located near each other? ^_^

[EZEKiAL]

Go Dreamer)-->

I think so too! !

But about the clock tower, Maybe those symbols are something that SEGA made up, because it's like a cross between Japanese, and Roman numerals! Very strange and creative indeed!

But I'm wondering is Bellbridge's location close to Twinseeds? Are they some how located near each other? [/quote]

Actually, the way it's looking, they seem to maybe be in two different time periods. TwinSeeds was very 'Sonic-esque futuristic city', but BellBridge is really just a spiffed up, NiGHTS-ified London...with a cooler clock tower.

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[^_^ Go Dreamer]

Actually, the way it's looking, they seem to maybe be in two different time periods. TwinSeeds was very 'Sonic-esque futuristic city', but BellBridge is really just a spiffed up, NiGHTS-ified London...with a cooler clock tower.

So is Belbbridge's time period set in the present?

Well either way, Bellbridge and the Clock tower look pretty cool! ^_^

[andersam]

tut, tut, such violence. I personally think NiGHTS should defeat wizeman with the pure power of LOVE
-shot-

Maybe wizeman will possess it and it turns into some type of power ranger rip-off type robot?
-shot yet again-



I think Bellbridge is a beatiful city. TOURIST ATTRACTION!

[Deraj]

tut, tut, such violence. I personally think NiGHTS should defeat wizeman with the pure power of LOVE
-shot-

Maybe wizeman will possess it and it turns into some type of power ranger rip-off type robot?
-shot yet again-



I think Bellbridge is a beatiful city. TOURIST ATTRACTION!

I was actually sorta thinking something similar. *Hides in Bomb-shelter* Wait for me to finish my explanation...! *Hears gun de-cocking* Thank you.

Here's a shot in the dark, but maybe the Belltower has some sort of Clock-Maren Spirit-thing that Wizeman plans to enslave or something. (Royally p***ing off Reala (And his fanboys/girls) in the process, since he wouldn't be Wizeman's favorite pet anymore.) *Hears guns cocking, and inches toward the bomb shelter*

*Long Pause*

Or we can go the Archie way and say it's Wizeman's way into our reality. *Shot repeatedly before I have a chance to dive out of the way* Or not...

[Madfish]

Oh yeah, this time there's no egg clock timer thingy. Instead the tower chases you.

Hickory Dickory Dock
The kids flew up the clock
The clock struck one

Spoiler

...and the other got away with minor injuries : )

::Looks at Xay's post::

And people say video games are bad for you <G>

[phosphorus]

When I first saw that picture I thought SEGA had gotten the Syntax for Roman numerals right, but it's not so simple. Most clocks that use Roman Numerals that I've seen mess up the four, instead of IV, they just put IIII. Because this tower is based off of Big Ben, I decided to see if SEGA's syntax matched the one on Big Ben. One quick image search later, and I discovered that that's just what Big Ben's face actually looks like. example

Not much room for speculation here...

And I'm hoping it sets itself to real time.

[Mitsuu]

They fight the ginat Marshmellow Monster that combines itself with the Tower.

the stay puff marshmallow man from ghostbusters?

will: if you don't think of anything, then wizeman can't choose the destroyer! so clear your minds!
helen: ok, we can do it. minds are clear.
NiGHTS: yes, all clear.

wizeman: the destroyer has been chosen!!

*marshmallow attack*

will: no! we didn't think of anything!!
helen: it was NiGHTS' fault!
NiGHTS: i tried to think of something i loved that would never harm me! THE STAY PUFF MARSHMALLOW MAN!!!

[PRiNCE]

We all know what the tower is.

NiGHTS planted bombs in there because he can't stand wil and Helen. So, the kids eat all the bombs and die. After they die, Wizeman blows himself up, and then the worlds are in danger. A quick call to Chuck Norris's power of over nine thousand fixed everything. Then the real surprise...

Belbridge is in Nightopia, and the tower is the remaining ruins of the grwat mother's kingdom.

EDIT: Just thought of this...

It's a clock.

-iLLiViAN

We know it's a clock.

- Kichigai

You're both wrong.


It's a clock TOWER. lolz.

[Monophobe]

What's to question? They're just standard roman numberals. Just a bit elongated on a clock face.

Ok, this isn't 100% the font used there, but it demonstrates my meaning. Fonts like that very often draw the V in such a manner, and the X commonly has a strike through the center.

Squash the face ones to be a bit shorter and Robert is your mothers brother, if you get my meaning (if you don't, work it out )



EDIT: oh, and the 8 is still VIII, just look a bit closer, it's not 4 I's

....damn, forgot to remove the dot on the I on 5, but still, you get my drift.

[Sairus]

heh, well that little discussion sort of ruins a large chunk of mystique around the clock face's significance! XD Nice job with the detetcive work though! XD

[Monophobe]

Sorry, but ya know, there were some truly lolworthy moments in this thread that had to be dealt with. Japanese numerals? Claims that Clock Tower* doesn't have proper numerals either - again, look at it properly, yes it does.


*Big Ben being a bell, not the clock or the tower that houses it and so not the basis for JoD clock

Anyway, you'd have felt like right tits if you carried on speculating over something that isn't there...........you're welcome

[Jof]

I'll claim all resposibility for the naivity of the numerals on the clockface, what should have been an obvious place to look must have escaped me 2 months ago. However, the topic was settled on the very same day the topic opened, when I realised they were just strangley font'd Roman numerals.

I didn't realise the face of Bellbridge was an almost carbon copy of Big Ben though.

Claims that Clock Tower* doesn't have proper numerals either - again, look at it properly, yes it does.

I don't seem to recall anyone claiming that.

*Big Ben being a bell, not the clock or the tower that houses it and so not the basis for JoD clock ph34r.gif

Doesn't alter the fact that 9 out of 10 people call the Tower [clock and bell included] Big Ben anyway.

Anyway, you'd have felt like right tits if you carried on speculating over something that isn't there...

The speculation ended on the same day it started. phosphorus merely brought up the subject again with a little welcomed extra info.