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Have they even said how much it would be? Some rumors state that it will be as long as a normal old Sonic game. However, if it is just a few levels at a time, I don't think if they will be so bold as to charge us $10-$15 for 3 levels.

Then again...I have been gravely wrong before.

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They will charge $10 most likely seeing as the Genesis titles are all $5.

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Well I know one type of episodic download I have seen is about $5 each so that was what I was thinking about.

If it is $10 and a whole normal Sonic game, I won't complain. But it better be more than 3 levels at least or charge less...

Why are gaming companies assuming that everyone in America, Japan, and Europe are all so well along that no matter where they are they have super fast internet connection and download EVERYTHING?! Hell I know some really popular places that still have horrible wifi! And it isn't just like someone can walk into a coffee shop and hook up their wii for WiFi. >> "Don't mind me. Just trying to download a game here."

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I'm in Idaho... Even the Coffee Shops have bad wireless...
I'd still prefer they'd stick this game on a collection disk or something... coupled with Chaotix... now THAT I would buy...
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-Still skeptical of this, although not as much because it'll just be a Virtual Marketplace Game (THANK GOD).

Making a Sonic The Hedgehog 4 is pretty random and SPOCIOUS. But this game looks overly modern for that role. And the graphics from the trailer aren't the most convincing. I really would prefer if it SEGA used old-school sprites to make the game. That way it would look more like a Sonic 4.

The game could be good, but it's overly promoted. This can't be considered a return to form for Sonic if the last handheld games weren't-


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Yeah, it just seems more like if Sonic Rush and New Super Mario Bros. wii had a little Sonic Rush 3.

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I doubt they'll divide it up. Something of this scale they'll probably release as one big grand thing.

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Found this via a game comic completely unrelated to SEGA. I think some sentiments are shared in this youtuber's song. Thought I'd share it.
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I was going to post the link, but with all the threats going around...

There is leaked video of the alpha version of this game on 1UP, TSSZ News, and some youtube videos. See them now because they probably wont' be around long.


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I was going to say what I saw but seeing as Sega employees read up on this place a lot...I better not. Just lol at Sonic having issues with a loop. (A glitch I am sure they will fix. But it is still funny.)

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Well that confirms Sega chant is back, yay.. I hear select sfx from Sonic Adventure.. Sonic can spin and roll in this, right? Weird that person did no rolling.

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DEAR GOD!!! taking a look at that special stage, it really looks like the original special spinning stage of doom will make its return

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http://www.1up.com/d...ory?cId=3177985

Do we like or hate that Dimps is in charge of S4 and not Sonic Team? (funny that they're using a doctored picture)

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my only issues with it being DLC is you cant take it around with you to play at a friends without lugging the entire console, and because it's virtual we have no box to hold or manual to read. ah the smell of a new game :lol:

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http://www.1up.com/d...ory?cId=3177985

Do we like or hate that Dimps is in charge of S4 and not Sonic Team? (funny that they're using a doctored picture)


I have no problem with this. The handheld Sonic games have been the best the series has seen in the past decade. My only beef with Sonic Rush was that it was too easy to fall to your death.

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my only issues with it being DLC is you cant take it around with you to play at a friends without lugging the entire console, and because it's virtual we have no box to hold or manual to read. ah the smell of a new game :lol:

well, if you look at where it says what it's for, you'll see "Playstation network, xbox live arcade, wiiware, ???"
comparing the empty box, it looks it will either be for the DS or the DSiware

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Clarity about developers- http://forums.sega.c...ad.php?t=315614

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Still sounds like Dimps is doing a lot of the work which is fine by me. They're a solid developer and I have few reasons to doubt them more than Sonic Team. Despite their faults, the handheld Sonics made by Dimps were worthy additions.

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I was hyped when it was announced. I was hyped during the concept art being released and the little bits of info they gave over the months. Then the trailer released and ...nothing. Lost it. Plus, the latest news post at Sonic Stadium makes me wonder why they felt the need to alter the way he jumps. Doesn't sound good.

I don't feel this should be called Sonic 4, personaly.

I'll play it before i judge the ever loving crap out of it but from what i've seen since the leaked gameplay videos and the trailers went online i ain't feeling the 'nostalgic' essence that i should be from something that's being called 'Sonic 4'.

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They held off so long on showing us media, too, so it's kind of a shame; they need to be absolutely keen on showing us the best of the best here. Sonic's character model is one thing, that's subject to opinion, but animation issues are another. Ugh.

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The next badnik has been revealed on S4's game site, it's Bubbles, the blue spiky floaty things from Sonic 3. Only there's also gonna be red ones now. Apparently due to Robotnik's ''budget cuts'' they don't all have spikes anymore, lol.

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On another forum, a member is complaining that the leaked footage looks too much like Green Hill Zone. Which just proves that some fans are impossible to please.

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The Sonic fanbase is so large and the games so diverse in design that the fans are going to be difficult to please on a whole scale. If SEGA can just make different Sonic games targeted at the different areas of the Sonic fanbase then they'll win everyone over. It'll be a slow process but it would work in the long run. Instead they're trying to please ALL Sonic fans in one go. It's not going to work.

It's like this Sonic 4 thing, they didn't want to use the old version of Sonic because his look has been updated now in modern games. Why does this game need to be targeted at the modern Sonic fan in general? Just make this game FOR the people that have been asking for old school Sonic action and leave the modern day stuff to the modern games like Unleashed and the storybook series.

I hate to bring up Nintendo but look at how they're working things. Stuff like Mario Galaxy take a new spin on Mario however they're still making Mario games in the old school style which sells to the old school Mario fans.
Simples.

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Pleasing the fans is one thing, I've always figured they should be pleasing themselves first, making a game they're proud of, and fans will follow suit. I dunno, it's about knowing what's important in Sonic games; fans have myriad opinions and views on what they want to see, but certain key elements are far more important than others; wanting Shadow to appear hardly matters. Wanting fun, interesting level designs? That does matter.

It seems to be the case, and I kinda hope I'm not wrong on this, that most of Sonic's 'fail' games were produced without a full sense of passion from the team making them.. most of Sonic's problems have been completely avoidable (Werehog, for example, which killed Unleashed's chances of critical success), unfortunately it just seems that Sonic Team just doesn't have the same smarts, or support from Sega that Mario's people have. Look how long it's taken for Galaxy 2 to come out, if only Sega would let Sonic games be made with the same level of care. Instead of throwing Sonic into random gameplay cliches, they need to keep focused on what makes Sonic special. They've really been quite frustratingly dense.

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Those Achievements seem extremely easy.

Super Sonic Woo!

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Yes playable SS confirmation woooo

Also, there's an interview with Iizuka that confirms Tails and Knuckles for ep. 2, apparently. Also confirms Spin Dash and rolling attack for this game

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Heh heh heh. Knew Tails and Knux would appear at some point. It wouldn't be "Sonic 4" without them. ^^

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http://www.tssznews....ower-interview/

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"Iizuka: “Sonic 4 is a brand new title and not a remake,” adding “I’d say this title will be the best one for players who feel they cannot keep up with recent Sonic titles.”"

'Cannot keep up?' That's odd phrasing.. I get the sense Iizuka doesn't realize the faults many of the recent Sonic titles have. Like, he doesn't see them as problems. Wonder how he'd address what we feel are JoD's main faults. Do we need Naka to slap you around a bit, Iizuka?

Also it seems there won't be any classic Sonic model in these games.

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http://www.tssznews....ower-interview/

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"Iizuka: “Sonic 4 is a brand new title and not a remake,” adding “I’d say this title will be the best one for players who feel they cannot keep up with recent Sonic titles.”"

'Cannot keep up?' That's odd phrasing.. I get the sense Iizuka doesn't realize the faults many of the recent Sonic titles have. Like, he doesn't see them as problems. Wonder how he'd address what we feel are JoD's main faults.

I hope he isn't confusing gimmicks and a difficult game...

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http://www.tssznews....ower-interview/

Comment:
"Iizuka: “Sonic 4 is a brand new title and not a remake,” adding “I’d say this title will be the best one for players who feel they cannot keep up with recent Sonic titles.”"

'Cannot keep up?' That's odd phrasing.. I get the sense Iizuka doesn't realize the faults many of the recent Sonic titles have. Like, he doesn't see them as problems. Wonder how he'd address what we feel are JoD's main faults. Do we need Naka to slap you around a bit, Iizuka?

Also it seems there won't be any classic Sonic model in these games.

Keep in mind it could have been a bad translation.

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http://www.tssznews....oes-esque-game/

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"Other notables from the interview include Hayes’s commitment to “reinvest in our core franchises,” and that there are announcements coming for this year’s E3 expo, but would not elaborate on what to expect–at least in this portion of the interview. This is a two parter, and more may be revealed when CVG publishes part two. We will keep tabs."

Please, please let that include our beloved jester. Sadly it's hard to imagine Sega considering him a ''core'' franchise right now, but we can hope..

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Interesting interview. I would love to think NiGHTS was a core franchise too but i can't see it being the case. If they had handled NiGHTS a little better then no doubt he would have had a little success upon his return. But ...here we are :/

Still, never say never. There's always hope.

As for Sonic though, i see Mario & Sonic going places. They wouldn't let it end with the Olympics. They're on a little earner now, i see that series continuing for a while.

I'm actually really glad they mentioned the 'All-Star' series. Could this mean we have more coming from Sumo Digital? If so then can i get a HELL YAAAYAH!!! XD
If more All-Stars are on the way then NiGHTS will be there, at least. After this fuss we kicked over ASR i know they won't want this drama again. I'm pretty confident that any new All-Star game will have NiGHTS in.

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http://www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/us/

Site update, Splash Hill Act 1 music is up for download!

One thing I'll say about the music, it sounds nice and happy fun, just hope there might be more to the loop than that, because it loops way too early. I just compared it to Green Hill, at 35 seconds Splash Hill loops already, and by that point Green Hill is just moving into its second phase, if that makes sense.

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"We thought the users who purchased classic games like 'Sonic 1' and 'Sonic 2' through the Wii Virtual Console would be the most interested in the downloadable titles"

That certainly is curious logic. I can understand wanting to make the game as affordable and accessable as possible, but did they not take the several rerelease sets into account? I'm not complaining in the slightest, but the quote stuck out as peculiar...

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Q & A with Gamesradar http://www.gamesrada...032510433192036

It irks me that there are these apparent physics issues... I just ask, why?? Why can't Sonic feel and jump exactly like he did on the Genesis? Why?

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So what's this I hear about the soundtrack being leaked?

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So what's this I hear about the soundtrack being leaked?


All here my man. There's some decent tunes in there, and unlike alot of folk, I love the instruments, gives me a real poppy arcade retro feel. The special stage music is perhaps too realxing though lol.

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Oh wow, even the entire soundtrack's been leaked? Lol SEGA can't keep anything under wraps, can they?




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