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#1
Posted 10 January 2008 - 07:20 PM
Three words come to mind:
What...the...f***
I'll still buy the game if it's good, but honestly. Way to jump the shark Namco. Seriously, look at the teaser. Vader is locking swords with Mitsurugi . Apparently Yoda is exclusive to 360 while Vader is PS3 only. That also annoys me because I mostly play my 360 and Vader is more badass than Yoda.
Thank Prime for Tekken 6 and them not pulling crazy stunts like this. So what do you guys think of this news?
#2
Posted 10 January 2008 - 07:21 PM
#3
Posted 10 January 2008 - 07:27 PM
So what do you guys think of this news?
Basically what you said: what the f***.
Well, since we're stuck with it anyway, I hope General Grievous will be playable. >:|
#4
Posted 11 January 2008 - 04:09 AM
#5
Posted 11 January 2008 - 09:38 AM
I don't want to play Soul Calibur 4 anymore..... D: Thanks for ruining my fandom, Namco
#6
Posted 11 January 2008 - 11:39 AM
#7
Posted 11 January 2008 - 11:56 AM
#8
Posted 11 January 2008 - 12:46 PM
#9
Posted 11 January 2008 - 01:38 PM
They... dont fit!
Why do they have to? They're just bonus characters, a neat extra for people to enjoy and help push a few extra units.
Besides, one could argue that they fit more than Heihachi and Spawn did in SC2. The Star Wars setting might be technologically futuristic, but one must remember that it is "a long time ago". Soul Calibur is a weapon-based combat series, Heihachi didn't even have a weapon; at least Yoda and Vader are packing their Lightsabers.
It's a fighting game. Don't put too much thought into it, just roll with the fact that there's a couple more awesome characters in it.
#10
Posted 11 January 2008 - 09:47 PM
#11
Posted 14 January 2008 - 04:58 AM
#12
Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:07 AM
Oh, yeah. Here comes something I've been tempted to do for some time now!
George Lucas: "You got your Soulcalibur in my Star Wars!"
Hiroaki Yotoriyama: "You got your Star Wars in my Soulcalibur!"
Oh, how low I have sunk.
#13
Posted 14 January 2008 - 06:47 PM
#14
Posted 15 January 2008 - 04:00 AM
#15
Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:16 PM
This is sh!t. I mean, for the last game in the series, they could have done something much better than throw this crap in there.
#16
Posted 16 January 2008 - 01:21 PM
#17
Posted 07 June 2008 - 09:39 PM
Another f*!*ing light-sabre weilding character has made an appearance. Character is Darth Vadar's secret apprentice called Starkiller (ooh, what a cool name. sounds like some of the n00bs we get in the forums) and he's set to also appear in a Star Wars game that's going to be released this year. Reckon Namco are selling out yet?
For more information on this feel free to watch this - super cool trailer here!
Man, i really used to love Soul Calibur for that storyline and the way each character wrote themselves into the universe. It was good quality stuff and i appreciated the writing that went into those games.
With these Star Wars people now all over the place it just ruins it totally. It's not the kinda cross-over this game needed, in my opinion.
#18
Posted 07 June 2008 - 10:35 PM
Geez.....Starkiller >_<
#19
Posted 07 June 2008 - 11:47 PM
Metal Sonic
Aladdin
The Happy Mask Man
Chun Li
Ash Ketchum
Shippo from Inuyasha
and Big the Cat.
#20
Posted 07 June 2008 - 11:48 PM
I'm not sure about how I feel for SC4 or TFU. I'll probably get both, eventually, but lately Star Wars hasn't held as much excitement for me as it used to.
#21
Posted 08 June 2008 - 01:04 AM
#22
Posted 08 June 2008 - 02:00 AM
#23
Posted 08 June 2008 - 04:13 AM
Even the manga artist characters are gimmicky, but they have two things in their favor. First, they're original characters made specifically for the game. Second, they're not horribly out of place. Even so, all this all has me really concerned actually. It feels like Namco is marketing like nuts and making a mad dash for sales almost as if the game couldn't actually sell by its own gameplay merits, opting to rely on gimmicks instead. The fact that Namco is once again eschewing an arcade version does nothing to ease my mind. I still have every intention of buying this, but it is with the greatest amount of trepidation. I don't care much for Star Wars and will only play the force users the minimum amount needed to unlock everything, and the only way I'll forgive their presence is if this game is at least as good as Soul Calibur 2. Like Snugs, if this game is broken like SC3 I doubt I'll buy any more games in the series. Thank goodness Namco doesn't mess around with Tekken.
#24
Posted 08 June 2008 - 04:50 AM
At least in MvC2, some of the non-god tiers where playable on a team, but not for SC3. =l
:edit:
When you say messing with Tekken, does Bob supposedly being Top tier count?
#25
Posted 08 June 2008 - 10:12 AM
And i agree about SC3. I loved the game a lot but it was fucked in some areas. They rushed the game so much that a huge percentage of owners experienced corrupt save files if they messed around with other files on their memory cards. I was one of those people - I had a SC3 save file lasting over one year because i had been taking my time to unlock everything and basically enjoy the story mode segment that had that Strife idiot in it (who was a complete power-house by the last fight and due to my uneven character usage it was impossible for me to beat him). I had been wanting to play Outrun 2006 but i did not have enough memory on my card so i went back and deleted a few older game files, like Tekken 4 which i don't play anymore. When i went back to SC3 it said my save file was corrupted. Apparently many people experienced this problem.
Anyways, as for SC4. I still don't like the inclusion of Star Wars characters because it does seem like a cash in and not a little bit of fun. When i first saw Darth Vadar i was seriously "wtf?" and i didn't understand how light-sabres could cut through everything else yet it couldn't cut through Mitsurugi's metal katana. I suppose they're going to say the light-sabre was weakened or some retarded shyte no doubt. After a while i did get a little used to the addition of Vadar and Yoda because i began seeing them as nothing but cameo's similar to Link and Spawns addition to SC2. But with this extra Starkiller pisshead who's also another Star Wars character i'm really bored with it and disliking the new take on the series.
#26
Posted 08 June 2008 - 10:31 AM
Ask and you shall receive bunny-man.I haven't actually seen these guest characters that were created by the Manga artist. Can anybody show me what they look like? I'm interested.
Shura - Designed by Hiroya Oku, best known for making Gantz.
Scheherazade - Designed by Yutaka Izubuchi. He mostly designs costumes or mechs and has been involved in several things such as RahXephon, Gundam, Patlabor, and Jin-Roh.
Angol Fear - Designed by Mine Yoshizaki who's probably best known for making Sgt. Frog.
Ashlotte - Designed by Oh! great. He's probably best known for making Tenjho Tenge.
#27
Posted 08 June 2008 - 11:50 AM
Shura reminds me too much of Taki =/
#28
Posted 08 June 2008 - 12:46 PM
Now that's pretty cool, i like that Shura character. Ashlotte reminds me of TRiPPY's Gen characters a bit yet is still quite cool. Angol Fear doesn't look too bad either.
So...hang on. Are these characters main characters aswell? Like do they have their own stories and stuff or are they just a bit of extra content kinda like how the bonus fighters featured in SC3 - characters but no story?
Seeing these characters has made me regain a bit of faith in this game. I like the looks of those.
Cheers Zero.
#29
Posted 08 June 2008 - 12:50 PM
Especially in hopes that they made the "NOOOOOOO" sound clip one of his death sounds.
Considering how bad I am at Soul Calibur, I'd be hearing it a lot.
#30
Posted 08 June 2008 - 01:52 PM
#31
Posted 08 June 2008 - 04:27 PM
Angol Fear and Ashlotte look like the most legit SC characters out of those pictures.
This brings up one more question. Will we be seeing more new males besides the SW characters?
#32
Posted 24 July 2008 - 03:06 AM
From what I can tell, they appear to simply be new skins on preexisting movesets. No story as far as I can tell either. For example, Shura fights exactly like Cervantes. It doesn't bother me too much though. They are bonus characters. They never really needed to be in the game. Besides, I think it's better these guys have some well developed movesets rather than those half-assed custom character styles from SC3.
#33
Posted 24 July 2008 - 09:22 AM
But, yeh. Whatever i guess. This game lost so much appeal to me when they announced the third Star Wars guy was going to be in it. That really kinda killed it for me. It's sad because i was so hyped about Soul Calibur 3 back in the day and when i heard 4 was in the making i was really looking forward to it. But now i'm just ..meh.
#34
Posted 24 July 2008 - 09:35 AM
besides
the company is Bandinamco one of the best companies out there atm with games like .Hack//G.U. and Tales of the Abyss there really shouldn't be much of a problem...
the only issue I can think of is continuing a series that's 4 games long (or more I think...) without making it repetitive...
#35
Posted 24 July 2008 - 11:00 AM
I don't really see the problem with Star wars characters being in the game. Now I admit I have NEVER played a Soul Caliber game... and I was planning this one to be my first...
I've ranted earlier about this but I'll give you the abbreviated version. It's a heavy-handed marketing ploy and when companies employ such tactics, it tends to send the message that they aren't very confident in their product. There is also the possibility you just don't like Star Wars or rather don't like Star Wars harming the integrity the Soul franchise.
Honestly Saifer, if you want to get into the series I highly recommend you pick up Soul Calibur II instead. In my opinion it is the peak of the series. Easy to find too and it shouldn't cost more than $20 tops.
Hey DiGi, don't give up yet. It might just turn out alright. As far as characters go there is still Hilde and Algol who I know for a fact are new characters in every sense. Besides, I'm buying this game on launch and I'll be sure to let everybody here know what I think of it.
Finally, there is apparently a 5th manga character called Kamikirimusi. She's drawn by some character designer/animation director from Sunrise named Hirokazu Hisayuki.
#36
Posted 24 July 2008 - 11:57 AM
I agree with the Star Wars thing. Soul Calibur had a very interesting storyline and it all took place on Earth. Now characters from a SciFi film where the characters are from a galaxy 'far far away' are turning up? It just seems less about originality and more about MONEIZ. Get me? Last game in the series and they probably thought "f*** it, let's get some big money here!" so they call up Mr. Lucas and say "hey homes! Guess whut? We got a very successful game series here and we're making the last one. You's gots a lotta money. Let's talk dollaz!".
Soul Calibur had a crazy ambience about it that i can't explain. Throwing all this SciFi stuff into it just don't gel and it ruins that ambience.
That 5th manga character looks interesting. I'm betting she plays with a moveset similar to Seigfried/Nightmare though, judging by those screenshots.
I'll still get this game (when i get a 360) because i want to see this storyline completed. It was a good story and i'm hoping this inclusion of the StarWars stuff doesn't ruin it too much.
#37
Posted 24 July 2008 - 04:45 PM
I see... that makes sense... but I don't think that Star Wars would be much of an issue in terms of messing with storyline (Bandai made games with amazing story lines since .hack so I don't think Namcobandi would let star wars screw with that much...) let alone the fact it's an actual sequel since they would be better off employing these "off" characters in Soul Caliber Legends or something along those lines... That being said I think what you said about Namcobandai not being confident in their product is the most likely event...It's a heavy-handed marketing ploy and when companies employ such tactics, it tends to send the message that they aren't very confident in their product. There is also the possibility you just don't like Star Wars or rather don't like Star Wars harming the integrity the Soul franchise.
All and all I doubt storyline or gameply would be majorly affected... which in terms of gameplay could be both good and bad (just look at dynasty warriors) keep in mind that they could simply take the "Sonic Riders approach" where they simply did not use the new characters in the storyline...the only issue I can think of is continuing a series that's 4 games long (or more I think...) without making it repetitive...
plus if you hate star wars...
think of it as an opportunity to beat the tar outa Yoda and Vader...
p.s. sorry for not noticing you mentioning this before Zero-Shift if you brought it up I didn't see that post...
#38
Posted 24 July 2008 - 09:30 PM
#39
Posted 25 July 2008 - 09:06 PM
#40
Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:44 PM
In most cases, one can tell if a game is good through trailers showing gameplay and other important factors, that is so long as the control scheme isn't completely dead... can anyone link me to a gameplay trailer?
thx in advance...
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