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Besides NiGHTS, I also play Yu-Gi-Oh!, which is pretty fun as long as you stay away from the idiots who think that meta Decks are the only way to go. The video games are also fun. I recently got Yu-Gi-Oh! GX: The Beginning of Destiny for the PS2. I like the video games and all, but it would be better if you had 3 of every card to start with.
If anyone's interested, there's a free program known as the Yu-Gi-Oh! Virtual Desktop (YVD for short) available for download here. With it, you can Duel against anyone online, and you have access to all the cards that way. You'll probably need to update your sets, though. Most people would say to go to Scrollrack, but the guy who runs it is slow on releasing things, and some cards he won't release at all just because they aren't legal in tournaments. Apparently he's never heard of casual players.
Anyway, I make my own sets and images, which can be found here.
Finally, since you can record, or "log", your Duels on YVD, you might want this as well. It's the only thing that can read the log files.
Also, XeroCreative is going to release a new version of YVD, called YVDX, soon anyway. It'll have Team Dueling compatibility, so posting the above stuff about YVD 8.6 may be useless, but it's there for anyone who wants it.
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Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 10:18 PM
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 03:17 AM
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Is it Online only? Or can you choose to play a regular game offline? *Is curious*
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 03:18 AM
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You will need a human opponent. There's no AI to Duel against.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 04:20 AM
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I played and bought many cards when the game first came out. I even have a few of the very old games. I don't collect or play much anymore. I stopped really careing when the GX series came out. Its a lot of money and just not as fun anymore. Especially with all the forbidden cards. I never played the game online...so don't ask me about that.
I still buy some cards from time to time, but only from old sets really. Heh...I still have good ol trapmaster from my very fist starter deck...
My deck is a light and dark deck. It has Dark Magician, Dark Magician girl, and Magician of Black Chaos (Ritul version). I collected many different varieties of Dark Magicians and such. But my favorite card of all is Chaos Sorcerer. Oh wait..whats that you say? It forbidden?! On NOES what will I do in a competition. Oh thats right, I don't participate in official tournaments. So it doesn't really matter....
I still buy some cards from time to time, but only from old sets really. Heh...I still have good ol trapmaster from my very fist starter deck...
My deck is a light and dark deck. It has Dark Magician, Dark Magician girl, and Magician of Black Chaos (Ritul version). I collected many different varieties of Dark Magicians and such. But my favorite card of all is Chaos Sorcerer. Oh wait..whats that you say? It forbidden?! On NOES what will I do in a competition. Oh thats right, I don't participate in official tournaments. So it doesn't really matter....
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 08:52 AM
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Well, we finally have official rules for Team Dueling (they were put in place a couple months ago or so) now.
I hated "Chaos Sorcerer". It should stay Forbidden for a while.
"Dark Magician" and "Yubel" are my signatures, and thanks to the latest set, we finally got "Dark Red Enchanter", one of my favorite cards.
I hated "Chaos Sorcerer". It should stay Forbidden for a while.
"Dark Magician" and "Yubel" are my signatures, and thanks to the latest set, we finally got "Dark Red Enchanter", one of my favorite cards.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 01:07 PM
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I just use Bad Reaction to Simochi to suck the life out of my opponents, but it hasn't been going well,but i haven't dueled in at least 3 months.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 02:45 PM
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You should add "Gift Card" and "Nurse Reficule the Fallen One" to your Deck, along with some "Soul Taker", "Upstart Goblin", and "Rain of Mercy" cards.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 05:57 PM
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I'm kind of in the same boat as Yami. I used to play the game quite a bit, but I stopped playing after a while. The straw that broke the camel's back was the banning of Thousand-Eyes Restrict. I used to run a control deck with TER as the cornerstone of the whole thing. Restricting Metamorphosis and TER really hurt my deck, banning TER is where I drew the line. Apparently Metamorphosis is now banned as well. I can understand why Magical Scientist was banned, but Metamorphosis? It's like upper deck is trying to make fusions nonviable all over again.
On an unrelated note, I hope everybody here has seen Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged.
On an unrelated note, I hope everybody here has seen Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 07:03 PM
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You should add "Gift Card" and "Nurse Reficule the Fallen One" to your Deck, along with some "Soul Taker", "Upstart Goblin", and "Rain of Mercy" cards.
I have Gift card, but not the others
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 07:51 PM
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"Nurse Reficule the Fallen One" is one of the cards that comes with Yu-Gi-Oh! GX: The Beginning of Destiny for the PS2. "Upstart Goblin" and "Rain of Mercy" were originally commons from Magic Ruler (now known as Spell Ruler), but can also be easily found in some other sets, due to reprinting. "Soul Taker" is from Gladiator's Assault, if I remember correctly.I have Gift card, but not the others
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 08:40 PM
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An online Yu-Gi-Oh game... do they have specific ranks for the players that sign up for it? Also, do they have practice games and tutorials for weak players?
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 08:44 PM
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There's no signing up. You just download and play.
There used to be a ladder system for player rankings, but it has long since been abandoned.
So if you want practice games for weak players, I guess you should find someone who's really good at this game to help train you. I'd be a good person for that, in fact.
When you first open YVD, there's a tutorial on how to use it. Besides that, you'll have to rely on someone else.
There used to be a ladder system for player rankings, but it has long since been abandoned.
So if you want practice games for weak players, I guess you should find someone who's really good at this game to help train you. I'd be a good person for that, in fact.
When you first open YVD, there's a tutorial on how to use it. Besides that, you'll have to rely on someone else.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 09:35 PM
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I know all the sets, but I'm probably going to wait to get back in the game...
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Don't blame Upper Deck. They don't really get a say in what goes on the Forbidden Cards List. Blame Konami. And yes, I've seen ALL of LittleKuriboh's work. He's a genius.It's like upper deck is trying to make fusions nonviable all over again.
On an unrelated note, I hope everybody here has seen Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged.
As for Nyclone, that's too bad, because I need opponents. XeroCreative is full of <insert curse word>s.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 11:33 PM
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I may, but i doubt it though...
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 01:44 AM
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Hehee. Way back when, I used to use Simochi with Eye of Truth. I could see my opponants hand AND he would loose 1000 life points every time he drew a magic card. Ha!
I know how you feel about the banning. I could tolerate most, but I got irritated when I couldn't used Sinister Serpent or my Chaos Sorcerer any more. What made me even more upset were the idiots that wouldn't let me play a game using them when were not even in tournaments. I said screw it and moved on with my life. The constant updates to forbidden cards is a pain in the ass. And trust me, there are MUCh worse things than Chaos Sorcerer. I mean it wasn't like he was that hard to kill. I loved him because he required light and dark monsters to summon. ONly other cards like that were those Ultra Rare and way too powerful cards. My deck is made up of a lot of not so rare stuff. (I also don't know why they forbide the monster you like so much. All you need is a monster card that is not affected by monster effects or a dark hole. Or wait...is dark hole banned again? They keep switching it every month. >.< )
I also just didn't like the way things were going with the new cards and the all the money I was spending for some damn cardboard... never getting the card I wanted, getting beat up by people that spent way too much money on the game. That and the fact I now have no one to play with. My boyfriend won't play anymore because he hates it. That and his deck is pretty dang old and I beat it all the time.
I know how you feel about the banning. I could tolerate most, but I got irritated when I couldn't used Sinister Serpent or my Chaos Sorcerer any more. What made me even more upset were the idiots that wouldn't let me play a game using them when were not even in tournaments. I said screw it and moved on with my life. The constant updates to forbidden cards is a pain in the ass. And trust me, there are MUCh worse things than Chaos Sorcerer. I mean it wasn't like he was that hard to kill. I loved him because he required light and dark monsters to summon. ONly other cards like that were those Ultra Rare and way too powerful cards. My deck is made up of a lot of not so rare stuff. (I also don't know why they forbide the monster you like so much. All you need is a monster card that is not affected by monster effects or a dark hole. Or wait...is dark hole banned again? They keep switching it every month. >.< )
I also just didn't like the way things were going with the new cards and the all the money I was spending for some damn cardboard... never getting the card I wanted, getting beat up by people that spent way too much money on the game. That and the fact I now have no one to play with. My boyfriend won't play anymore because he hates it. That and his deck is pretty dang old and I beat it all the time.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 01:55 AM
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Hmm... ooh nice. Might try this out; I'm in the same boat as Yami and Zero-Shift, though >_>.
Pfft... I liked Chaos Sorcerer. Pretty good card; helped me out a lot, and it was easy and common to boot. A lot of people don't like it just because it's so popular and powerful, which I think is silly >_>. But, hey, to each his own, no?
I hated "Chaos Sorcerer". It should stay Forbidden for a while.
Pfft... I liked Chaos Sorcerer. Pretty good card; helped me out a lot, and it was easy and common to boot. A lot of people don't like it just because it's so popular and powerful, which I think is silly >_>. But, hey, to each his own, no?
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I hated it because every time it was used against me, I ended up losing the Match, and whenever I used it, my opponent had an immediate countermeasure, such as "Bottomless Trap Hole". Honestly, there was this one time I had two monsters on the field, one was face-up, the other a Set Defense monster. My opponent plays "Chaos Sorcerer", removes my face-up monster from play, then Tributes that "Chaos Sorcerer" to Tribute Summon "Zaborg the Thunder Monarch", destroying my other monster. One direct attack meant game.
If that card ever gets off the ban list, I'm quitting.
If that card ever gets off the ban list, I'm quitting.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 02:32 AM
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One direct attack means game?! What game are you playing? Then again, I am insaine with my deck and life points. Someone attacked me twice with Blue Eyes directly. "Awww how sad. You finally got me back down to what I started with at the beginning of this game..."
Also, it sounds like you had a hard time with that guy. Yes he can be easy to counter, that is why you put ways to counter things like that in your deck, and your opponent mostly likly does too. That is why I don't see why he should be on the ban list. He isn't SUPER powerful. But it was basically the alternative after everyone got upset when the Envoy of the Beginning and Envoy of the End cards were banned. Back when those cards were not banned, I was using Chaos Sorcerer and everyone would make fun of me for doing so instead of the other guys.
Also, if you have a problem with the summoning thing in Chaos Sorcerer, than be gald no one ever actually used the Ultimate Offering card. Now that can be annoying.
Also, it sounds like you had a hard time with that guy. Yes he can be easy to counter, that is why you put ways to counter things like that in your deck, and your opponent mostly likly does too. That is why I don't see why he should be on the ban list. He isn't SUPER powerful. But it was basically the alternative after everyone got upset when the Envoy of the Beginning and Envoy of the End cards were banned. Back when those cards were not banned, I was using Chaos Sorcerer and everyone would make fun of me for doing so instead of the other guys.
Also, if you have a problem with the summoning thing in Chaos Sorcerer, than be gald no one ever actually used the Ultimate Offering card. Now that can be annoying.
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IT WAS LATE IN THE GAME, OKAY?!One direct attack means game?! What game are you playing?
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I just did a little research and I have two things to say:
1. With Tsukuyomi banned, there is no good reason to ban Thousand-Eyes. Just make TER and Instant Fusion limited and TER becomes balanced.
2. The new format with this ban list is terrible. It encourages barely anything but aggro decks. The first person to make a power move might as well be crowned the winner.
1. With Tsukuyomi banned, there is no good reason to ban Thousand-Eyes. Just make TER and Instant Fusion limited and TER becomes balanced.
2. The new format with this ban list is terrible. It encourages barely anything but aggro decks. The first person to make a power move might as well be crowned the winner.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 07:24 AM
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I bought some cards ages ago...but due to lack of opponents and its general similarities to Magic: The Gathering, I stopped buying them.
I do have World Championship '07 on the DS, so could play that with anyone who asks and we arrange a sensible time. I don't really have much in the way of favourites, I generally just throw decks together and they get beat down. XD
I don't mind the losing too much, it happens all too often, especially on the wi-fi where an increasingly annoying amount of people use "Reversal of Graves" OTK, when having 3 copies of half the restricted and banned cards. It was impressive the first time, laughable the second, but after that it was just irritating. I'd much prefer a good thought out strategic game, or if need be an explosive monster game...pretty much so long as I get a turn to draw a card and play something, I don't mind, really. XD
I do have World Championship '07 on the DS, so could play that with anyone who asks and we arrange a sensible time. I don't really have much in the way of favourites, I generally just throw decks together and they get beat down. XD
I don't mind the losing too much, it happens all too often, especially on the wi-fi where an increasingly annoying amount of people use "Reversal of Graves" OTK, when having 3 copies of half the restricted and banned cards. It was impressive the first time, laughable the second, but after that it was just irritating. I'd much prefer a good thought out strategic game, or if need be an explosive monster game...pretty much so long as I get a turn to draw a card and play something, I don't mind, really. XD
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The actual name of that card is "Exchange of the Spirit". They get a lot of things wrong in the video games, like card names.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 03:45 PM
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OH I know. Any really powerful few card combos are getting banned and it makes it hard to make creative decks. What they seem to encourage really is to buy all the new cards, use the most powerful while you can, and then they get banned. The ban list is so huge its not even funny anymore.I just did a little research and I have two things to say:
1. With Tsukuyomi banned, there is no good reason to ban Thousand-Eyes. Just make TER and Instant Fusion limited and TER becomes balanced.
2. The new format with this ban list is terrible. It encourages barely anything but aggro decks. The first person to make a power move might as well be crowned the winner.
"I play Change of Heart"
"Thats banned"
"I play Witch of the Black Forest"
"She is banned now, not limited."
"Monster Reborn?"
"Banned"
"Graciful Charity?!"
"Thats banned too."
"WHAT!? I am discarding cards in order to draw more! ARG! Why make all these cards if they are all banned?!"
My deck that I have made over the past WAY too many years. Yeah I know it sucks. Bear with me.
Guardian Angel Joan (Switch out with another Dark Magician from time to time)
Dark Magician, Dark Magician girl, Magician of Black Chaos, Skilled Dark Magician x 2, Chaos Command Magician, Breaker The Magical Warrior, Apprentice Magician, Chaos Sorcerer, Marie The Fallen One, Sangan, Night Assailant (Dark Man eater bug basically), Kycoo The Ghost Destroyer, Ebon Magician Curran, Double Coston, Kuriboh, Dark Elf, Trap Master (YOU ARE OLD BUT I LOVE YOU! Also the only monster in my deck thats not light or dark).
Roulette Barrel, Thunder Nyan Nyan, Hysteric Fairy x 2, Pixie Knight, White Magician Pikeru, The Forgiving Maiden, Magician of Faith, Mythical Beast of Cerberus (I need to put Gemini Elf back in....), Mystical Elf (HOLY CRAP A NORMAL CARD! XD), Soul of Purity and Light, Shining Angel.
Seven Tools of The Bandit, Call of the Haunted, Magic Cylinder, Magic Jammer, Waboku, Solemn Wishes, Dust Tornado, Draining Shield.
Dark Hole, Black Magic Ritual, Axe of Despair, Nightmare's Steelcage, Mage Power, Soul Exchange, Monster Reincarnation, Swords of Revealing Light, Mystical Space Typhoon, Magical Blast (This can get annoying), Heavy Storm.
I have a lot in my side deck too. Like fusion cards and such. I used to use Scapegoat and Amazon Archer a lot too. XD I wonder how many of these cards are fobbidon now...
Also, Zero, can you not use Fusion gate? Thats what I used to do for my fusion monsters.
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Yeah. Everything in my deck is fine except Dark Hole. They banned it again it seems. LOL Make up your damn mind guys. Is it going to be forbbidon or limited?!
Wow, Last Will is Forbbidon. Someoen must have made one hell of a combo with it in a tournament. My boyfriend would use it a lot but it was never that great and no one else would ever consider using it. Most cards that get on that list, get on their after being seen as over used in a big tournament. In fact, Chaos Sorcerer stayed off that list for a very long time till one big official world tournament came and everyone had 3 in their decks. BAN!
Ha! They limited gravity bind now too? Oh man that brings back memories. My boyfriend used to have a kick ass gravity bind deck and it always annoyed the crap out of everyone. That and he had a deck that would pull out two solomon Wishes and Two Burning lands. (I never thought to use that thing for draining away the opponents life points like that...)
I am surpised they don't put something like Trap Hole in there. Another card no one buy my boyfriend uses and is a pain in the ass. I have such a hard time summoning monsters around him with those and other cards with similar effects. They also don't put any of the lock slot cards on the list?! I know a person who locks up all your monster and magic slots with his deck. There so worried about all these other cards but they miss a combo that makes it impossible for you to play any cards?! Thats messed up.........
Its funny how I would have these rare video game cards yet I can't use them in a duel....
Also, if Sinister Serphent is banned, then why not "The Wicked Worm beast." That thing's effect is simply, "Comes back to your hand at the end of your turn." You can use it to exploite things like Magic Jammer and such just like Sinster serphent there. But I guess its like a spirit monster in the sense that if its on the field, then it comes back to your hand. Spring of Rebirth anyone?
Wow, Last Will is Forbbidon. Someoen must have made one hell of a combo with it in a tournament. My boyfriend would use it a lot but it was never that great and no one else would ever consider using it. Most cards that get on that list, get on their after being seen as over used in a big tournament. In fact, Chaos Sorcerer stayed off that list for a very long time till one big official world tournament came and everyone had 3 in their decks. BAN!
Ha! They limited gravity bind now too? Oh man that brings back memories. My boyfriend used to have a kick ass gravity bind deck and it always annoyed the crap out of everyone. That and he had a deck that would pull out two solomon Wishes and Two Burning lands. (I never thought to use that thing for draining away the opponents life points like that...)
I am surpised they don't put something like Trap Hole in there. Another card no one buy my boyfriend uses and is a pain in the ass. I have such a hard time summoning monsters around him with those and other cards with similar effects. They also don't put any of the lock slot cards on the list?! I know a person who locks up all your monster and magic slots with his deck. There so worried about all these other cards but they miss a combo that makes it impossible for you to play any cards?! Thats messed up.........
Its funny how I would have these rare video game cards yet I can't use them in a duel....
Also, if Sinister Serphent is banned, then why not "The Wicked Worm beast." That thing's effect is simply, "Comes back to your hand at the end of your turn." You can use it to exploite things like Magic Jammer and such just like Sinster serphent there. But I guess its like a spirit monster in the sense that if its on the field, then it comes back to your hand. Spring of Rebirth anyone?
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Okay, you clearly don't understand this game. Let me break it down for you.
"Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning" - This card was easily too much power for too little cost. All you need are two monsters in your Graveyard to remove from play, and you get a 3000 ATK Warrior-Type beatstick that can attack twice in one turn under a condition or remove a monster from play. Add in "Ready for Intercepting", "Book of Moon", and "Book of Taiyou", and you can use both of his effects in one turn, because flipping a monster face-down, then face-up resets its effects.
"Butterfly Dagger - Elma" - Ever hear of "Gearfried the Iron Knight"? How about "Magical Marionette" and "Dark Red Enchanter"? That's why this card is banned. It creates an indefinite loop for Spell Counters, and combined with those two monsters means you completely dominate your opponent. They aren't even difficult to get to the field.
"Change of Heart" - Again, too much power for the cost of 1 card ("Change of Heart" itself). I can steal anything that isn't a face-down "Shield Gardna" or a face-up monster that's unaffected by (targeting) Spell Cards. Do you realize how rare it is to see monsters like those? No, I didn't think so. And I can do whatever the heck I want with your monster once I've taken it.
"Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End" - See also "Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning". Also, combine this card with "Sangan" to get "Yata-Garasu" and completely lock your opponent. Far too powerful.
"Chaos Sorcerer" - See also "Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning", and even with only 2300 ATK, it is still too powerful to take down without a "Monarch" monster or "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys".
"Confiscation" - You give up one card and 1000 Life Points to see your opponent's hand and make them discard. If it were a random discard, this would probably be just Limited, but since you see your opponent's hand with an easy-to-pay cost, it's too powerful to keep around.
"Cyber Jar" - It destroys all monsters on the field and takes off the top 5 cards of both Decks. So basically, depending on luck, you could end up with a bunch of good Level 4 or lower monsters, or a bunch of crap in your hand. Either way, this card's way too powerful in mill Decks (Decks that deplete your Deck to win) and in other general Decks.
"Cyber-Stein" - Pay 5000 Life Points to play a Fusion Monster in Attack Position. This would most often be "Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon" by now, though "Cyber End Dragon" was also used. In other words, add "Megamorph" for an OTK.
"Dark Hole" - I give up one card to destroy all monsters on the field. Too powerful, especially if I have no monsters on the field. And by the way, this was on the list for the past few years.
"Delinquent Duo" - See also "Confiscation". Giving up 1 card and 1000 Life Points to get rid of 2 cards in your opponent's hand is just too powerful in a single card.
"Exchange of the Spirit" - The idea with this card is to thin your Deck as much as possible into your Graveyard, using cards like "Masked Dragon", "Troop Dragon", "Thunder Dragon", and other such things while also keeping your opponent's cards out of his/her Graveyard. Then you play this card, and you suddenly win because your opponent no longer has a Deck. Yeah, too powerful.
"Fiber Jar" - Also known as the Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME's "reset button", this one card would basically reset the Duel, save for Life Points and cards removed from play. This card was often used in burn Decks to recycle powerful burn cards, like "Tremendous Fire".
"Graceful Charity" - This card lets you draw three cards, then discard two. It's far too broken in a "Dark World" Deck, and thins your Deck a bit too much at too little cost.
"Harpie's Feather Duster" - I give up one card to destroy up to six of yours. There's no real payment here. It's too powerful.
"Imperial Order" - Basically, I can lock Spell Cards for as long as I want, while using other cards to gain the Life Points I pay back. Too powerful.
"Last Turn" - Combine this with "Jowgen the Spiritualist". Your only counter is to have "Sangan" on your side of the field when I use this or to have "Elephant Statue of Disaster" in your hand when I play this.
"Last Will" - Combine this with "Cannon Soldier", "Exiled Force", "Shadowpriestess of Ohm", "Gravekeeper's Cannonholder", "Throwstone Unit", "Catapult Turtle", or ANY OTHER CARD that sends a monster from your side of the field to the Graveyard. You get a free Special Summon to use as you like. Yeah, too powerful.
"Magical Scientist" - This card is the most infamous of all FTKs. This guy and "Catapult Turtle" together, coupled with a bunch of Fusion Monsters, meant disaster. It was also far too easy to get him out, too. "Last Will", "Serial Spell", and "Cannon Soldier" would be used together to play him and "Catapult Turtle", and then you won.
"Makyura the Destructor" - Being able to play Trap Cards from your hand for a turn is too powerful an advantage, especially considering the infinite number of ways to send a monster to the Graveyard.
"Metamorphosis" - Tributing a monster to play a Fusion Monster of the same Level is too powerful an advantage these days, with "Cyber Dragon" and "Monarch" monsters running amok. Look at all the Level 5 and 6 monsters running rampant, and now look at the Fusion Monsters of the same Levels. Yeah, too powerful an arsenal if you ask me. Heck, I can even Tribute "Yubel" with this now to play "Cyber End Dragon", and "Yubel" can be Special Summoned by "Mystic Tomato". "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare" can be Tributed for "Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon" with this card, too. I don't see it coming off the list soon. The only thing wrong with banning this card is that it makes "Elemental Hero Neo Bubbleman" unplayable, but no one cares about that.
"Mirage of Nightmare" - No one would play this unless they had "Emergency Provisions" Set as well. They'd empty their hand, draw 4 cards with this card, then send this card to the Graveyard and get at least 1000 more Life Points back. This was especially powerful if "Emergency Provisions" was Chained to your opponent's "Heavy Storm".
"Monster Reborn" - I give up a Spell Card to get any dead monster I want. I could then take this card in my Graveyard and remove it from play to Special Summon a "Spell Striker", who can attack directly. I could even Tribute both monsters to play my "Light and Darkness Dragon", and God knows how monstrously annoying that thing is. Yeah, this card's already too powerful on its own.
"Painful Choice" - I take 5 cards out of my Deck, have you pick one to go to my hand instead of the Graveyard, then use a card or two that combine with whatever you sent to the Graveyard. This was especially broken in "Exchange of the Spirit", "Exodia the Forbidden One", and Chaos Decks. It's still broken now, thanks to "The Beginning of the End" and "Rainbow Dark Dragon".
"Pot of Greed" - I give up one card to draw two more. Too powerful.
"Raigeki" - Scroll the heck back up and read up on "Dark Hole" and "Harpie's Feather Duster". Now, do I really need to explain why this card is banned?
"Ring of Destruction" - I kill your monster, and we both take damage equal to its ATK. Most likely, I've just wiped your Life Points out while staying alive, thus winning. Or maybe it's a draw. Or maybe I just OTK'd you by combining this card with "Des Wombat" and killing a "Power Bond"ed "Cyber End Dragon".
"Sinister Serpent" - This card made cards with a discard cost too broken. They are called "costs" for a reason; banning this was basically Konami saying, "Don't be cheating your way out of a cost." Saying "The Wicked Worm Beast" should be banned because this card's banned is just stupid, because it must return FROM THE FIELD to your hand, so you can't abuse Tribute costs with it.
"Snatch Steal" - I steal your monster away and keep it for as long as I can, most likely doing more damage than the 1000 Life Points will help you with.
"The Forceful Sentry" - Look at "Confiscation". This card's actually BETTER, because a card discarded can be immediately used, while a card shuffled back into your Deck can't be.
"Thousand-Eyes Restrict" - With "Magician of Faith" still popular, and many other Level 1 monsters being used in certain Decks, "Metamorphosis" made this guy too easily used. "Thousand-Eyes Restrict" made the Duel a contest of "I can do stuff but you can't so who's going to forfeit first?" basically. We can use "Instant Fusion" nowadays to get him out, or just Fusion Summon him.
"Time Seal" - Forcing your opponent to skip his or her Draw Phase is too powerful in one card without any condition attached, not to mention this card was abused with "Mask of Darkness" and "Tsukuyomi".
"Tribe-Infecting Virus" - If this were a Spell or Trap Card, it would probably be Limited. But it's a Level 4 WATER Aqua-Type monster with 1600 ATK and no limit on how many times you can use its effect, making it far too broken.
"Tsukuyomi" - This is basically a reusable "Book of Moon" that could also attack. It made Flip Effect Monsters viable to keep on the field. Banning this was Konami saying, "Flip Effects are only supposed to be used once, unless you actually have the resources to devote your entire Deck to one freaking Flip Effect Monster."
"Victory Dragon" - A winning direct attack from this won you the entire Match, not only the Duel. Dragon-Type monsters can swarm reasonably well on their own, but you could just use "DNA Surgery" to turn all monsters on the field into Dragon-Type monsters and easily play your "Victory Dragon". With 2400 ATK and 3000 DEF, it's no slouch. Not to mention, over three quarters of the Yu-Gi-Oh! community around the world complained about this card, conceding the Duel before a direct attack with this could be made, and thus cheating the "Victory Dragon" user out of his victory.
"Witch of the Black Forest" - She's more useful than "Sangan" because she looks at DEF. She can get almost everything "Sangan" can, plus tons more. Now, "Sangan" is Limited already because of this, plus the effect is mandatory.
"Yata-Garasu" - A direct attack with this means your opponent skips his Draw Phase. Also, it's a Spirit Monster, and thus becomes harder to kill off. Also look at the combination I listed with "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End" and "Sangan"/"Witch of the Black Forest".
"Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning" - This card was easily too much power for too little cost. All you need are two monsters in your Graveyard to remove from play, and you get a 3000 ATK Warrior-Type beatstick that can attack twice in one turn under a condition or remove a monster from play. Add in "Ready for Intercepting", "Book of Moon", and "Book of Taiyou", and you can use both of his effects in one turn, because flipping a monster face-down, then face-up resets its effects.
"Butterfly Dagger - Elma" - Ever hear of "Gearfried the Iron Knight"? How about "Magical Marionette" and "Dark Red Enchanter"? That's why this card is banned. It creates an indefinite loop for Spell Counters, and combined with those two monsters means you completely dominate your opponent. They aren't even difficult to get to the field.
"Change of Heart" - Again, too much power for the cost of 1 card ("Change of Heart" itself). I can steal anything that isn't a face-down "Shield Gardna" or a face-up monster that's unaffected by (targeting) Spell Cards. Do you realize how rare it is to see monsters like those? No, I didn't think so. And I can do whatever the heck I want with your monster once I've taken it.
"Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End" - See also "Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning". Also, combine this card with "Sangan" to get "Yata-Garasu" and completely lock your opponent. Far too powerful.
"Chaos Sorcerer" - See also "Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning", and even with only 2300 ATK, it is still too powerful to take down without a "Monarch" monster or "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys".
"Confiscation" - You give up one card and 1000 Life Points to see your opponent's hand and make them discard. If it were a random discard, this would probably be just Limited, but since you see your opponent's hand with an easy-to-pay cost, it's too powerful to keep around.
"Cyber Jar" - It destroys all monsters on the field and takes off the top 5 cards of both Decks. So basically, depending on luck, you could end up with a bunch of good Level 4 or lower monsters, or a bunch of crap in your hand. Either way, this card's way too powerful in mill Decks (Decks that deplete your Deck to win) and in other general Decks.
"Cyber-Stein" - Pay 5000 Life Points to play a Fusion Monster in Attack Position. This would most often be "Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon" by now, though "Cyber End Dragon" was also used. In other words, add "Megamorph" for an OTK.
"Dark Hole" - I give up one card to destroy all monsters on the field. Too powerful, especially if I have no monsters on the field. And by the way, this was on the list for the past few years.
"Delinquent Duo" - See also "Confiscation". Giving up 1 card and 1000 Life Points to get rid of 2 cards in your opponent's hand is just too powerful in a single card.
"Exchange of the Spirit" - The idea with this card is to thin your Deck as much as possible into your Graveyard, using cards like "Masked Dragon", "Troop Dragon", "Thunder Dragon", and other such things while also keeping your opponent's cards out of his/her Graveyard. Then you play this card, and you suddenly win because your opponent no longer has a Deck. Yeah, too powerful.
"Fiber Jar" - Also known as the Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME's "reset button", this one card would basically reset the Duel, save for Life Points and cards removed from play. This card was often used in burn Decks to recycle powerful burn cards, like "Tremendous Fire".
"Graceful Charity" - This card lets you draw three cards, then discard two. It's far too broken in a "Dark World" Deck, and thins your Deck a bit too much at too little cost.
"Harpie's Feather Duster" - I give up one card to destroy up to six of yours. There's no real payment here. It's too powerful.
"Imperial Order" - Basically, I can lock Spell Cards for as long as I want, while using other cards to gain the Life Points I pay back. Too powerful.
"Last Turn" - Combine this with "Jowgen the Spiritualist". Your only counter is to have "Sangan" on your side of the field when I use this or to have "Elephant Statue of Disaster" in your hand when I play this.
"Last Will" - Combine this with "Cannon Soldier", "Exiled Force", "Shadowpriestess of Ohm", "Gravekeeper's Cannonholder", "Throwstone Unit", "Catapult Turtle", or ANY OTHER CARD that sends a monster from your side of the field to the Graveyard. You get a free Special Summon to use as you like. Yeah, too powerful.
"Magical Scientist" - This card is the most infamous of all FTKs. This guy and "Catapult Turtle" together, coupled with a bunch of Fusion Monsters, meant disaster. It was also far too easy to get him out, too. "Last Will", "Serial Spell", and "Cannon Soldier" would be used together to play him and "Catapult Turtle", and then you won.
"Makyura the Destructor" - Being able to play Trap Cards from your hand for a turn is too powerful an advantage, especially considering the infinite number of ways to send a monster to the Graveyard.
"Metamorphosis" - Tributing a monster to play a Fusion Monster of the same Level is too powerful an advantage these days, with "Cyber Dragon" and "Monarch" monsters running amok. Look at all the Level 5 and 6 monsters running rampant, and now look at the Fusion Monsters of the same Levels. Yeah, too powerful an arsenal if you ask me. Heck, I can even Tribute "Yubel" with this now to play "Cyber End Dragon", and "Yubel" can be Special Summoned by "Mystic Tomato". "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare" can be Tributed for "Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon" with this card, too. I don't see it coming off the list soon. The only thing wrong with banning this card is that it makes "Elemental Hero Neo Bubbleman" unplayable, but no one cares about that.
"Mirage of Nightmare" - No one would play this unless they had "Emergency Provisions" Set as well. They'd empty their hand, draw 4 cards with this card, then send this card to the Graveyard and get at least 1000 more Life Points back. This was especially powerful if "Emergency Provisions" was Chained to your opponent's "Heavy Storm".
"Monster Reborn" - I give up a Spell Card to get any dead monster I want. I could then take this card in my Graveyard and remove it from play to Special Summon a "Spell Striker", who can attack directly. I could even Tribute both monsters to play my "Light and Darkness Dragon", and God knows how monstrously annoying that thing is. Yeah, this card's already too powerful on its own.
"Painful Choice" - I take 5 cards out of my Deck, have you pick one to go to my hand instead of the Graveyard, then use a card or two that combine with whatever you sent to the Graveyard. This was especially broken in "Exchange of the Spirit", "Exodia the Forbidden One", and Chaos Decks. It's still broken now, thanks to "The Beginning of the End" and "Rainbow Dark Dragon".
"Pot of Greed" - I give up one card to draw two more. Too powerful.
"Raigeki" - Scroll the heck back up and read up on "Dark Hole" and "Harpie's Feather Duster". Now, do I really need to explain why this card is banned?
"Ring of Destruction" - I kill your monster, and we both take damage equal to its ATK. Most likely, I've just wiped your Life Points out while staying alive, thus winning. Or maybe it's a draw. Or maybe I just OTK'd you by combining this card with "Des Wombat" and killing a "Power Bond"ed "Cyber End Dragon".
"Sinister Serpent" - This card made cards with a discard cost too broken. They are called "costs" for a reason; banning this was basically Konami saying, "Don't be cheating your way out of a cost." Saying "The Wicked Worm Beast" should be banned because this card's banned is just stupid, because it must return FROM THE FIELD to your hand, so you can't abuse Tribute costs with it.
"Snatch Steal" - I steal your monster away and keep it for as long as I can, most likely doing more damage than the 1000 Life Points will help you with.
"The Forceful Sentry" - Look at "Confiscation". This card's actually BETTER, because a card discarded can be immediately used, while a card shuffled back into your Deck can't be.
"Thousand-Eyes Restrict" - With "Magician of Faith" still popular, and many other Level 1 monsters being used in certain Decks, "Metamorphosis" made this guy too easily used. "Thousand-Eyes Restrict" made the Duel a contest of "I can do stuff but you can't so who's going to forfeit first?" basically. We can use "Instant Fusion" nowadays to get him out, or just Fusion Summon him.
"Time Seal" - Forcing your opponent to skip his or her Draw Phase is too powerful in one card without any condition attached, not to mention this card was abused with "Mask of Darkness" and "Tsukuyomi".
"Tribe-Infecting Virus" - If this were a Spell or Trap Card, it would probably be Limited. But it's a Level 4 WATER Aqua-Type monster with 1600 ATK and no limit on how many times you can use its effect, making it far too broken.
"Tsukuyomi" - This is basically a reusable "Book of Moon" that could also attack. It made Flip Effect Monsters viable to keep on the field. Banning this was Konami saying, "Flip Effects are only supposed to be used once, unless you actually have the resources to devote your entire Deck to one freaking Flip Effect Monster."
"Victory Dragon" - A winning direct attack from this won you the entire Match, not only the Duel. Dragon-Type monsters can swarm reasonably well on their own, but you could just use "DNA Surgery" to turn all monsters on the field into Dragon-Type monsters and easily play your "Victory Dragon". With 2400 ATK and 3000 DEF, it's no slouch. Not to mention, over three quarters of the Yu-Gi-Oh! community around the world complained about this card, conceding the Duel before a direct attack with this could be made, and thus cheating the "Victory Dragon" user out of his victory.
"Witch of the Black Forest" - She's more useful than "Sangan" because she looks at DEF. She can get almost everything "Sangan" can, plus tons more. Now, "Sangan" is Limited already because of this, plus the effect is mandatory.
"Yata-Garasu" - A direct attack with this means your opponent skips his Draw Phase. Also, it's a Spirit Monster, and thus becomes harder to kill off. Also look at the combination I listed with "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End" and "Sangan"/"Witch of the Black Forest".
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Okay, you clearly don't understand this game. Let me break it down for you.
Dude. Yami has been playing Yu-Gi-Oh way longer then you O_O. If anything, she knows more then you. Maybe she doesn't know every single thing thing, but she knows how to beat the crap out of practically anyone on this board (no offense). She knows how to play.
Besides, newer isn't always better. I like the older Yu-Gi-Oh cards and decks.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 08:54 PM
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Please do not say I do not know that game. It has been a while and I just didn't remember everything. I also don't know about cards I do not own, or have not seen played against me. So most of the other cards you listed that went good with those Forbiddens made no sense to me. You wasted your time with that one. I don't know what Monarch cards are. Is that somethign from the GX set or the really really late normal Yu-Gi-Oh set?
I do understand the reasoning for some cards really. Yes I will admit, Change of Heart and Ragiki are kinda broken there. I think Dark Hole should be limited though. Heavy Storm is limited and its the same type of effect. You hurt both players, not just one. But I guess losing your monsters is usually more important than the magic/traps you lose. Also like you were saying, a lot of those cards only become broken WHEN USED WITH so on. If those used with cards are limited, then the cards power is limited as well. Well actually that may not be fair. But I think cards that needed to be forbiddon the most are things like "I play this one card with nothing else and now I do insaine stuff". Some of the cards I see there I think should just be limited. That and...no I am just not going to say it. I may make a goof of myself.
As for wicked worm beast, no he returns to your hand no matter where he is. That is what it says. "This card is returned to your hand at the end of your turn." Now unless they put up some special rule on the net saying its supposed to be the field only...then its still very useful. You can use it to have free cost.
What do you mean Chaos Sorcerer is still too powerful to take down. I can equip a 1600 monster with Axe of Despair and take him down easily. There are lots of cards that should be able to take him down out there. I know there is. I usually never have mine out on the field for too long. But I guess it really is a powerful effect. Its something I would need to help take down other really hard to beat cards. I guess it just peeves me that the few good cards I ever get end up being too good and are limited or so. Sorry if I don't spend that much money getting the best like everyone else.
I didn't realise one of the lock cards was on there. Someone was just telling me all about the deck he has. I have yet to see it in action.
I guess I just really miss how the games were back in the day. Now it just stinks to me. They do have a lot of over powerful cards and I think they are fine to have a few of. But a lot of people would spend so much money just to get a ton of them and abuse this power. But thats how the game works right. *sigh* I guess I just really don't like card games much anymore for this reason.
Also....is it just me or is the list smaller? I remember it being a lot bigger.
I guess you are right in some cases of not understanding the game. There are many cards on that list that only become TOO powerful once they are combind with something else. If I do not have those cards or know what they are, then the cards power is not that know to me. Like Tribe Infecting Virus. I have a few of those and I thought it was not all that great. I thought it was ok, but not enough to be considered broken.
I do understand the reasoning for some cards really. Yes I will admit, Change of Heart and Ragiki are kinda broken there. I think Dark Hole should be limited though. Heavy Storm is limited and its the same type of effect. You hurt both players, not just one. But I guess losing your monsters is usually more important than the magic/traps you lose. Also like you were saying, a lot of those cards only become broken WHEN USED WITH so on. If those used with cards are limited, then the cards power is limited as well. Well actually that may not be fair. But I think cards that needed to be forbiddon the most are things like "I play this one card with nothing else and now I do insaine stuff". Some of the cards I see there I think should just be limited. That and...no I am just not going to say it. I may make a goof of myself.
As for wicked worm beast, no he returns to your hand no matter where he is. That is what it says. "This card is returned to your hand at the end of your turn." Now unless they put up some special rule on the net saying its supposed to be the field only...then its still very useful. You can use it to have free cost.
What do you mean Chaos Sorcerer is still too powerful to take down. I can equip a 1600 monster with Axe of Despair and take him down easily. There are lots of cards that should be able to take him down out there. I know there is. I usually never have mine out on the field for too long. But I guess it really is a powerful effect. Its something I would need to help take down other really hard to beat cards. I guess it just peeves me that the few good cards I ever get end up being too good and are limited or so. Sorry if I don't spend that much money getting the best like everyone else.
I didn't realise one of the lock cards was on there. Someone was just telling me all about the deck he has. I have yet to see it in action.
I guess I just really miss how the games were back in the day. Now it just stinks to me. They do have a lot of over powerful cards and I think they are fine to have a few of. But a lot of people would spend so much money just to get a ton of them and abuse this power. But thats how the game works right. *sigh* I guess I just really don't like card games much anymore for this reason.
Also....is it just me or is the list smaller? I remember it being a lot bigger.
I guess you are right in some cases of not understanding the game. There are many cards on that list that only become TOO powerful once they are combind with something else. If I do not have those cards or know what they are, then the cards power is not that know to me. Like Tribe Infecting Virus. I have a few of those and I thought it was not all that great. I thought it was ok, but not enough to be considered broken.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 09:00 PM
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Ditto, Yami. Prefer my older cards from 5 years ago. Way better.Now it just stinks to me.
And when kids played for fun, and didn't keep up with what's forbidden, what's not. No lifepoints for us. Just duel 'till you run out of cards. That's how we played; it was fun for us.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 09:10 PM
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Whao Whao whao there. I am not THAT good. And he does know a lot more than me. In the sense that he knows a ton more cards than me. I don't know all the cards, but it didn't matter since I only played with cards I got from packs and Starters and did the best I could with what I have. I basically tired to exploit common and uncommon cards to the best of my ability. I rarly went on missions to buy the best cards from someone or the internet. Only time I did that was when I was trying to get Dark Magician Girl for myself, and Don Zaloog for my boyrfiend. HEY WAIT! I didn't see Don Zaloog on the list anymore. Did they change it or did I miss it?Dude. Yami has been playing Yu-Gi-Oh way longer then you O_O. If anything, she knows more then you. Maybe she doesn't know every single thing thing, but she knows how to beat the crap out of practically anyone on this board (no offense). She knows how to play.
Besides, newer isn't always better. I like the older Yu-Gi-Oh cards and decks.
As for the no lifepoint thing...I never played a game like that before. However I do remember when the game first came out and people would have a deck of 200 cards. LOL Those were the days man. XD
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 09:16 PM
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Yeah. Loved those days; still have my old cards.As for the no lifepoint thing...I never played a game like that before. However I do remember when the game first came out and people would have a deck of 200 cards. LOL Those were the days man. XD
Should sell 'em on ebay >>.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 09:20 PM
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And everyone in the world had a Summond Skull in their deck. XD I only recently replaced my for Chaos Command Magician. (Defense against my bf's Relinquished) Recently being a year ago.....Yeah. Loved those days; still have my old cards.
Should sell 'em on ebay >>.
HEre is what I would like to know. Do they not know when the card is made that it will be too powerful? Why make it in the first place if they are going to forbid it?
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I've been playing since Bandai owned the game. Let's see Yami show me something I haven't already seen or thought of.Dude. Yami has been playing Yu-Gi-Oh way longer then you O_O. If anything, she knows more then you. Maybe she doesn't know every single thing thing, but she knows how to beat the crap out of practically anyone on this board (no offense). She knows how to play.
Besides, newer isn't always better. I like the older Yu-Gi-Oh cards and decks.
Also, why make a card if you're just going to ban it? Because it'll still make money. That's all Konami cares about. All they're going to care about is if they can make money off a card just because some noob from the anime used it.
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She may not, but I might. There's a wiki deticated to the game.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 11:18 PM
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I've been playing since Bandai owned the game. Let's see Yami show me something I haven't already seen or thought of.
XD; don't be so silly. This isn't a competition at all; I'm just telling you not to be so harsh, because Yami knows a real lot about the game, even if she's not interested int he newest series. No need at all for some "I'm better because I blahblahblah."
That's just childish.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 11:19 PM
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That is true. Kinda like the god cards and such. But still, it just irks me sometimes. Those cards are powerful and seem broken, but so do many other cards. Why are they so special?I've been playing since Bandai owned the game. Let's see Yami show me something I haven't already seen or thought of.
Also, why make a card if you're just going to ban it? Because it'll still make money. That's all Konami cares about. All they're going to care about is if they can make money off a card just because some noob from the anime used it.
And I think I did just say something you may or may not know. You told me that Wicked Worm Beast's effect only works if he is on the field but the card does not say that, nor does the site have any individual info on that card. There is no way you can know everything. There is no way I know everything and I know you know more than me. The point is to learn from one another. I am sorry if I got you upset.
Another card that is always fun to play with...Heart of clear water. Oh boy. XD
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Then take your own advice and don't act like she's better than me. If you were trying to tell me not to be so harsh, you should have said exactly that rather than getting on my case, saying I know practically nothing.XD; don't be so silly. This isn't a competition at all; I'm just telling you not to be so harsh, because Yami knows a real lot about the game, even if she's not interested int he newest series. No need at all for some "I'm better because I blahblahblah."
That's just childish.
A monster's effect can only be applied while on the field unless the card itself says otherwise. A monster with a Summon requirement must fulfill that requirement to be Summoned from your hand, unless the card itself says otherwise. If you do anything with the Deck, barring putting a card(s) on the top or bottom, then you shuffle the Deck. These are three of the unwritten rules that govern pretty much any TCG. Can you use a Pokémon's Poké-Power from your hand? No, you have to bench or evolve it first.
They aren't special, they're popular. If they weren't banned, everyone would be running the same thing, and the game would get extremely stale extremely quickly.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 11:24 PM
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Ok everyone calm down please! I didn't mean to start a huge argument! D8
Everything you said I knew. I just wasn't sure about the Wicked Worm Beast since usually cards with that kind of effect go out of your way to say otherwise. BUt then again, that was a REALLY old card so things were not fully written out back then. Remember the misprint with that...damn I forgot its name. Its been so long. Nightmare somthing...oh yeah that says a lot. LOL It was the card that allowed you to remove monsters from play in your graveyard in order to destroy a monster.
Yeah I think I mentioned that earlier. ONce the card it used too much, it gets banned. Its not so much that its broken, its just over used. (I don't see too besides go around with Dream Clowns, Heart of Clear Water, and Labyrith of Nightmare in his deck.)
You know now that I think about it, Pokemon is a lot worse. They just ban everything that is old, so you have to buy the new stuff. Woldn't it suck if Yu-Gi-Oh was liek that?
Everything you said I knew. I just wasn't sure about the Wicked Worm Beast since usually cards with that kind of effect go out of your way to say otherwise. BUt then again, that was a REALLY old card so things were not fully written out back then. Remember the misprint with that...damn I forgot its name. Its been so long. Nightmare somthing...oh yeah that says a lot. LOL It was the card that allowed you to remove monsters from play in your graveyard in order to destroy a monster.
Yeah I think I mentioned that earlier. ONce the card it used too much, it gets banned. Its not so much that its broken, its just over used. (I don't see too besides go around with Dream Clowns, Heart of Clear Water, and Labyrith of Nightmare in his deck.)
You know now that I think about it, Pokemon is a lot worse. They just ban everything that is old, so you have to buy the new stuff. Woldn't it suck if Yu-Gi-Oh was liek that?
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I had to edit my previous post. I didn't see YamiLover13 post.
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