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[Innotech]

Im nott sure why, but Claris and Elliot never seemed all that special to me. the outfits were just bland, the whole appearance was the same typical cliche anime character, except taken to the blandest levels imaginable (only the colored hair made them stand out to me at all). They just didnt come across as memorable parts of NiGHTS and you could literally put any other kids in their place and it would have felt the same. All Im concerned about here truly, is if they get the game to play right. Story and characters all are secondary to the play experience. Nail that and it doesnt really matter what the games about.

[DREAMiNF]

anyone notice this but, in both games the Female characters have a musical Talent where in the boys have a athletic talent, Deja Vu ^^;

[Chan Kaylore]

I'm glad this is supposed to be set in an earlier time frame to the first game, because William has a haircut straight from the Beatles.

And...Helen is so damned frilly. I really do like her design, but I really wasn't expecting her to match NiGHTS frill for frill.

Edited by Purgatory, 05 July 2007 - 09:47 PM.
Deleted the double post for ya. ^^

[Louis]

btw GHZ sez the level is called Night Pier and the kids have different gameplay styles according to the William page

[DiGi Valentine]

Yeh, i just read that. So...Night Pier, eh? You don't suppose he got the term 'Night Pier' mixed up with 'Nightopia'?

[Q-Lok]

'S possible, DiG'. But I wouldn't rule anything out just yet.

About the birds visible in the Helen screenshots, I was just thinking about how NiGHTS looks like he's riding them by grabbing their tails or legs, a la Twilight Princess. Personally, I really hope he doesn't have to use them as a mode of transportation, since he's supposed to be A) extremely powerful anyway and able to use the Rocket Persona Mask for super speed. Having to use birds, cool looking though they are, would feel very wrong in the game's overall style.

And on the Ideya Capture/Ideya Palace/whatever that thing that NiGHTS is apparently stuck in is: I rather like the new look, just because it looks like it came straight out of Myst III or Myst IV. I'm a big fan of that glass-with-gold look that they use so much, so it's nice to see it in the new game. However, I'm still quite flabberghasted as to its true function. As someone above me mentioned, there has been no direct mention of the Ideya yet, so how exactly does that fit in with the new game mechanic? Or, for that matter, the storyline?

Also, I just wanted to point something out: Helen Cartwright = younger Yurika ([link]) from Rival Schools. Having beaten the game Project Justice start-to-finish, it rather creeps me out to associate the new NiGHTS character with Yurika. *shivers* (her brother, and the reason I'm creeped out)

[Tristam]

Yeh, i just read that. So...Night Pier, eh? You don't suppose he got the term 'Night Pier' mixed up with 'Nightopia'?

That's possible. I don't know Japanese, but I know an old Enix adventure game called "The Portopia Serial Murder Cases" that is sometimes incorrectly translated as "The Port Pier Serial Murder Cases."

[Starz]

Those screen shots have put a big smile on my face. The graphics and NiGHTS couldn't be better.
Although as well done as the children were made to look,they could have been a little more creative on the designs. As others have said, they look like siblings. But all and all, I can't wait to get it.^^

[Nellie Francis]

Also, I just wanted to point something out: Helen Cartwright = younger Yurika ([link]) from Rival Schools. Having beaten the game Project Justice start-to-finish, it rather creeps me out to associate the new NiGHTS character with Yurika. *shivers* (her brother, and the reason I'm creeped out)

*snicker* Are you sure that Will would end up looking like that...? XD But I do agree with Helen's connection to Yurika, though

(I wants me Yurika's dress~ D: )

[Sage]

*gawking* Oooh, I'm going to love this game when it comes out! *excitement!* If I don't have a Wii by the time this game comes out, I'm gonna buy the game anyway and hijack my friend's Wii. XD

I actually like the way the kids look. They look believable to me. What has my interest is how young they are. Claris and Elliot were 15, but these two are 12. That's a whole new can of psychological worms, and it may affect how the story unfolds. Should be fun. ^^

I can't wait to see how this story unfolds.

[Tangocat777]

Indeed. I haven't exactly looked for Helen and Kevin( at the time I saw him) to look believable after Claris and Elliot. You're absolutely right, though. I only hope the next magazine will give detail on pians.

[Ashashi]

From what I've seen, both Helen and William look pretty awesome ^^ I also like how they are pretty similar to Claris and Elliot. William liking Football and Helen playing the violin. Though I wonder how Helen will be seen in the game, she intrigues me the most out of the two characters. And OMG The Ideya Shrine NiGHTS is in looks absolutely beautiful (I know it's not called a shrine XD that's just what I call it).

I can't WAIT to get my Wii and buy this game man. I seriously can't wait.

[Tangocat777]

Guys. Bottom left picture of Helen's page. The one with the maren with eyes on its tail. Above the Maren's head is a yellow "!". If you play Boktai, you know what this (probably) means. Then, behind the ideya palace on William's page. See that? That pink tower? I think we should all know which special A-life is back.

[animejosse]

Guys. Bottom left picture of Helen's page. The one with the maren with eyes on its tail. Above the Maren's head is a yellow "!". If you play Boktai, you know what this (probably) means.

Now that you mention it... My first thought was Metal Gear Solid. Which gave me some interesting mental images

[catchan2007]

I can see the Maren with the yellow "!". It makes me think that there might be some sort of Metal Gear-like system or something...

[Tangocat777]

Mental images Animejosse? Like maybe a box persona mask? Oh, and I found this on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSZilXdr3sU...ted&search=

It says it contains music from JoD. If it's true, I'd have to say I look forward to JoD's music.

[Gun6]

Yay... a violinist and a football/soccer player... wow, that's me right there. >o>;;

I'm sorta iffy about both of them being blonde, but oh well. For some reason, the pictures on the bottom of Helen's page look like some kind of boss, even though that can't be. :S

[TehLazyOne]

its kinda funny...
Elliot and Claris are not that detailed... yet they are unforgettable...
Helen and William are higher in details and graphics, and yet they are easily brushed off your mind...
thats only my thought about them though...

[Innotech]

its kinda funny...
Elliot and Claris are not that detailed... yet they are unforgettable...
Helen and William are higher in details and graphics, and yet they are easily brushed off your mind...
thats only my thought about them though...

the only reasons for that are nostalgia and hair color.
Mostly hair color.

[iLLViLLAiN]

The only problem I have is that the character designs don't look very interesting. I'm not hating on them but they could have been a little more original. They look like twins and I'm kinda hoping they are seeing as how they look the same. Elliot and Claris were like anime characters to me and I liked that a lot. These kids seem like your "stereotypical" suburban kids. They seem... well... boring.

[Innotech]

The only problem I have is that the character designs don't look very interesting. I'm not hating on them but they could have been a little more original. They look like twins and I'm kinda hoping they are seeing as how they look the same. Elliot and Claris were like anime characters to me and I liked that a lot. These kids seem like your "stereotypical" suburban kids. They seem... well... boring.

It was the whole thing about Elliot and claris being unnatural looking that soured the effect of the first game for me. I really cant say it enough. the pink and blue hair practically ruined them

[Purgatory]

Everyone had unnatural hair that they emphasized. Green crazy red coloured, some bright yellow-headed kid, I think.. It isn't unusual for unnatural hair colours to be completely natural in a game or anime. But I see what you, mean, I guess. I still say they're just taking a different approach this time around. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Maybe more realistic things are your cup of tea. I can see a good number of people on both sides of this.

[Innotech]

Everyone had unnatural hair that they emphasized. Green crazy red coloured, some bright yellow-headed kid, I think.. It isn't unusual for unnatural hair colours to be completely natural in a game or anime. But I see what you, mean, I guess. I still say they're just taking a different approach this time around. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Maybe more realistic things are your cup of tea. I can see a good number of people on both sides of this.

no. actually unrealistic things are more my thing, hence games like NiGHTS and Okami. But the thing with NiGHTS, is that it was a contrast between the real world, andf the dream world nigHtopia. IMO the best way to properly emphasize the difference, would be going from a realistic world with bleievable characters, as normal as possible, to the wild and wacked out world of nightopia. It is that contrast that to me would have made NiGHTS that much better if the two kids were remotely real looking. Instead they looked like they beloinged in the world of dreams because of their hair and strange looks. It wasnt ideal for what NiGHTS was trying to do. Beleive me though, other than to serve as a contrast in this game, I am not a huge fan of realism in games. But here, it would work.

[iLLViLLAiN]

no. actually unrealistic things are more my thing, hence games like NiGHTS and Okami. But the thing with NiGHTS, is that it was a contrast between the real world, andf the dream world nigHtopia. IMO the best way to properly emphasize the difference, would be going from a realistic world with bleievable characters, as normal as possible, to the wild and wacked out world of nightopia. It is that contrast that to me would have made NiGHTS that much better if the two kids were remotely real looking. Instead they looked like they beloinged in the world of dreams because of their hair and strange looks. It wasnt ideal for what NiGHTS was trying to do. Beleive me though, other than to serve as a contrast in this game, I am not a huge fan of realism in games. But here, it would work.

I hope your right that it works. Well we all did ask for a sequel. I guess we should at least be happy we are getting one. They really didn't have to make one.

[animejosse]

I hope your right that it works. Well we all did ask for a sequel. I guess we should at least be happy we are getting one. They really didn't have to make one.

That's true, but still... they better do at least a decent job with it, or else

[-bret-]

Hm... I have come to the conclusion that every gamer in the entire world (with the exception of me) is a whiney bitch.

I LOVE the character designs. Not because they're great, but because they're not bad, and it's quite a relief after all this time just for that. We've waited a long time for this and to be honest I thought sega was just going to sh!t this game out.

All we need now is a trailer. I'm really excited to see how this game actually PLAYS.

[iLLViLLAiN]

Hm... I have come to the conclusion that every gamer in the entire world (with the exception of me) is a whiney bitch.

I LOVE the character designs. Not because they're great, but because they're not bad, and it's quite a relief after all this time just for that. We've waited a long time for this and to be honest I thought sega was just going to sh!t this game out.

All we need now is a trailer. I'm really excited to see how this game actually PLAYS.

I'm sorry. People are just whiney because we don't want this to end up like the Sonic game on 360 and PS3.

[Tangocat777]

Exactly, we want it to be more like SatSR, except even better.

[Drannore]

I think that Helen and William have acceptable character designs. I just hope that they do not lavish too much emphasis on elaborate CG to express some sort of complex story. Just leave things simple and vague.

If they do the cutscenes like in the original, with no voices, but very good music, I will be happy.

[Tangocat777]

I think that Helen and William have acceptable character designs. I just hope that they do not lavish too much emphasis on elaborate CG to express some sort of complex story. Just leave things simple and vague.

If they do the cutscenes like in the original, with no voices, but very good music, I will be happy.

Excellent music enhances everything, but this is 2007. There is expectance of a story now. After SatSR, though, I don't doubt that SEGA can make a compelling story.