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Indigo Skies

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The name Wizeman baffled me, it seemed to be a reference to archetype of the "wise man". But what, exactly do they have to with each other? Surely the wise man is a positive figure?

After a bit of digging, the archetype, and indeed Wizeman himself, seems more accurately referred to as Senex.

The senex is an archetype in Jungian psychology,roughly translated as old man or wise man,and seems to be the male equivalent of the "Great mother" figure; a father figure.

 

But the good senex, the guiding wise-man, is just one side of the coin. The senex is also bad,though rather little is said about this aspect of the senex, the connection between it and the Greek god Chronus is interesting enough. The only example I can really find with good elaboration on the negative senex is this book, though Ive come across a few references across the internet that use the term "negative senex", "devouring senex" or "devouring father" , anything beyond a fleeting mention is very uncommon.

 

To begin with I was somewhat apprehensive about labelling Wizeman as an antifather (at least outside of headcanon), because it didn't even seem to be concept (as opposed to the anti-mother), it is...it's just a very underused one,double standards cough and now I'm pretty much convinced.

 

The name Wizeman still seems a bit odd to me though, looking back on what I've learned it seems to almost be an overly-literal translation of "Senex" though it seems likely that Wizeman is a man of many names.

 

It does make me wonder yet again, if it's still canon, how Wizeman became inhuman, which I kind of assume still is canon.

And indeed, if there's a father... is there a mother? Not as complimentary but as opposite, a mother of Nightopia, as I believe was a scrapped concept. I always assumed that visitors were the powers that be and that Wizeman was an extreme freak of nature (or supernature) that had to lose his humanity to get where he is, but thoughts on all of this are very much welcome.



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Well, his full name is Wizeman the Wicked. He is a "wise man", as he is the "god" of nightmare. But he's wicked. So he's not the nicest guy.



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I think the "Wicked" part of the name was added in the North American (or just outside Japan) localization, as far as that goes. The senex thing is interesting, as we know Sonic Team definitely took inspiration Jungian philosophy and whatnot.



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It does seem I've misunderstood the idea behind the senex a little,at least as far as Jung was concerned, the senex is the archetype of maturity, and is opposed to the puer (child) rather than opposed or complimentary to the Great Mother which seems to be THE parenthoodhood archetype, even if later people may have interpreted it otherwise.



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There probably is some level of interpretation involved in the dream sequence, probably even a secret and even major level of relevance to the plot... Buuuuuut I am here for the ride, going for happy and emotional thrill rides through the levels, its a little bit euphoric <3

The levels, the bright colors, the sweet songs, the pretty characters and enemies... some enemies are just minding their own beeswax and you come in to just slap them : (






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