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The transition between waking and dreaming
#1
Posted 21 May 2007 - 07:17 PM
I'm lying there telling myself to remember the dream, and I feel the onset of deep sleep. Just before losing consciousness, I actually hear things! Voices and noises, and they don't come from my active imagination. Maybe my mind's playing tricks with me, or it's something like a dreamsign.. I'd rather not think I'm going crazy! XD;
Anyway, it's made me wonder if anyone else notices anything just before entering deep deep sleep. Do you get a floating sensation? See bright lights in your mind's eye? Take a deep breath and let it out? Or am I just going crazy? LOL
#2
Posted 21 May 2007 - 08:50 PM
#3
Posted 21 May 2007 - 10:48 PM
also, 200th post!
#4
Posted 22 May 2007 - 12:06 AM
#5
Posted 22 May 2007 - 12:20 AM
Ah Loren, I wish I could experience "minidreams" as consistently as you! If only to better understand them! What do you think causes them?
You've a great skill, Huruyami, resuming a dream even though you're waking up. The alarm eggs wouldn't affect you one iota! And congrats on the 200th post!
I know the feeling Ashashi - one of my more vivid lucid dreams began that way. I thought I was awake, and I felt heavy as you described. I was trying to stay asleep too! It could be considered a sort of dreamsign to begin lucidity, eh? :3
#6
Posted 22 May 2007 - 06:16 AM
#7
Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:21 AM
#8
Posted 22 May 2007 - 10:37 AM
And, I tend to get a lot of flashing lights and a small amount of hypnagogic imagery every now and then around that stage......
#9
Posted 22 May 2007 - 12:10 PM
Seconded. It's an odd sort of feeling whenever I snap back awake; I feel really drained and incredibly tired, as if I'd been asleep for hours (when in reality it's hardly been a matter of minutes).If I startle awake right after entering sleep, I can even remember patches of these 'dreams,' which are really just random sounds and images. Usually they have nothing to do with my thoughts before I go to sleep.
#10
Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:09 PM
What was it?
It was called Hypnagogic Imagery.
What does that mean?
Essentialy it means that at the start of an REM period (the bit where you dream), your mind creates these intense dreams sections before everything settles into a real dream.
I heard voices, are these ghosts?
No, quite a lot of people believe Hypnagogia is a state wherein you can contact the dead, you can't. It's more a 'whisper of a dream' if you will.
Fun Facts
- Concentrate hard enough on an item/taste/smell etc during hypnagogia and it's likely to apear in the visions.
- Hypnagogia is a key part of the WILD method, where it is used to help you get lucid.
- By following the hynagogia, many find themselves simply falling asleep, but if you keep your mind active and logical though it, you can experience the dream forming from scratch. This is a WILD
There you go, all explained for you!
Edited by animejosse, 22 May 2007 - 10:51 PM.
Thank you for this info. However, there's no need to imply people are idiots for not doing enough research. This is for discussion of those things so people can learn.
#11
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 11:57 PM
#12
Posted 25 May 2007 - 08:06 AM
#13
Posted 27 May 2007 - 06:34 AM
I've done it, it's eally neat.
#14
Posted 27 May 2007 - 01:11 PM
I must agree though, using it to attain some form of lucidity is very handy! If I could see AND hear something too, that'd make it so much easier. I'll take what I can get!
I just have one last little question: does anyone hear music? I think that'd be so freaking cool!
#15
Posted 27 May 2007 - 08:55 PM
#16
Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:50 PM
I always called those night terrors, because I didn't know what it was, or what caused it. But knowing does help. Thanks.
#17
Posted 28 May 2007 - 12:01 AM
I vaguely remember hearing music while going to the hypnagogic imagery stage. Once, I think. I know most things that tend to wake people in their dreams (music, getting lucid/excited, sounds from outside) don't wake me as easily. Like, I once heard a NiD song playing in my dream, from my subconscious, and recognized it and everything..Wow, thanks for your replies everyone! I guess hypnagogic imagery is unique to every dreamer. Heh, maybe I want to believe in a dream world too much..? ;
I must agree though, using it to attain some form of lucidity is very handy! If I could see AND hear something too, that'd make it so much easier. I'll take what I can get!
I just have one last little question: does anyone hear music? I think that'd be so freaking cool!
#18
Posted 28 May 2007 - 06:14 AM
I once heard a really neat trance track, too.
It can be pretty fun sometimes, yes.
#19
Posted 01 June 2007 - 03:31 PM
#20
Posted 14 June 2007 - 06:20 AM
*Claps*actually in my half lucidity i can tell im waking up and i subconsciously push myself back in.
also, 200th post!
You've come a long way.
#21
Posted 15 June 2007 - 04:24 PM
When I'm about to fall asleep my thoughts get all twisted up. Its hard to explain but, I usually start to get random thoughts that I cant control. Like it just pops up with out me thinking of anything related to it. Very weird too.
Yeah! It's as if in those sleepy moments my mind is just writing stories without me even thinking about it.. and I must say, they're usually better than anything I can come up with while I'm conscious.. I wish I could record them.. but then I'd have to become to aware to remember any of them. Even as I'm having them if I start to actually 'think', it kida fades away.
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