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Metal Sonic? YES YES?!

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Here's a version of Grounder that I drew and Scanned.

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There should be an AoStH level with Scratch and Grounder...:)

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Heck, they could put AOSTH Robotnik in there, so we can see his glorious Pingas in the Third Dimension!

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Metal Sonic? YES YES?!

That would be awesome? Project Metal Needlemouse!

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This is so weird.. the actor Andy Garcia, checking out stuff with Sonic Team..? Apparently he and his son share an affinity for Sonic.. or something.. http://forums.sega.c...ad.php?t=311499

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Iizuka can rock a purple shirt. +100 coolpoints.

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Purple, the manliest color of all. Anyone wearing purple get a +5 modifier to stamina, charisma and manliness. Roll a 20 to win the universe.

Now can somebody please explain what the hell Any Garcia is doing at Sonic Team?

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Yeah what the hell man, does being famous instantly grant you access to Sonicteams office?

Must work on the getting famous thing.

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I bet there's a lot more Sonic fans in the entertainment industry. I think Del the Funky Homosapien is one.

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http://www.tssznews....cept-art-music/

I'm rather hoping this game features current gen style graphics; it'd be way cool to see the spinning sunflowers in full res, rather than seeing them again in pixellated form. Maybe it'd be an interesting contrast to have 16 bit music playing with modern visuals, but the music doesn't have to sound like it's coming out of a Genesis. We're loving the 'back to basic's approach, but I hope they don't feel the need to replicate an entire Genesis game here.. at least judging by the other concept arts this need not be a worry

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I love the music! It's nostalgic, but still unique.

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Sounds like a hybrid of New and 16-bit music. It has the Beats of the Sonic 1&2 title music, but with some bits that sound like Sega's modern day tunes.

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http://blogs.sega.co...idnight-reveal/
Soon..

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Good luck getting the info on GameSpot and Tssz. Everyone is predicting massive downtime from this. XD

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It's expected because the Sonic fanbase is rabid.

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SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4 BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

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I'm still cautiously optimistic. I have yet to see or hear anything to make me feel otherwise.

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I'm liking it so far! The only thing that needs fixed in my opinon is his running animation. It looks like he's ice skating (like in Sonic 3D) rather than running fast on solid ground.

Worried. Hopeful. Also cautiously optimistic.

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The hype didn't really live up to what i was expecting, and it's down to one single thing - Sonic's run.

Those fans complaining about his eyes being green, him having his homing attack, all that pointless bullshit, they need to really focus on what's important. And that is Sonic's run doesn't look anything remotely old school. It looks very slippery, very disconnected and doesn't make me think of the old days at all.

His eye colour, i don't care about. Homing attack? good for me, personaly. His character model looks nice so no complaints there. The level looks good, i'm happy. His running animation? Terrible.

It's like if they changed the way NiGHTS flies, it would ruin the fluid motion of flight. It just doesn't sit right seeing all those other old school Sonic's in the trailer running and then Sonic 4 comes in running like he's dancing on ice.

So. Sonic the Hedgehog 4. Who knew?

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I don't know why but I keep getting that Sonic Rush feeling when I watch the brief game play footage. Not sure why...

Though I wonder why they had to build up this hype so much JUST for that little tease.

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Yeah lol, i think they're just trying to make as much hype/discussion/arguments as possible so word gets around. Could've shown more though i agree!

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Ok. I already read about "Sonic 4 - Episode 1" being the title. I already knew this was going to be an HD side scroller. But you know what? My Sonic fanboy sense is starting to rumble and get excited for the first time in many years. I have not been seriously excited about an upcoming Sonic game since the first Sonic Adventure, I THINK I'M ALLOWED. I know that there hasn't been a great Sonic game in over a decade... and that this teaser didn't even show much BUT DANG! It's Sonic! For realsies!

As for the running animation, I don't think you can judge from the teaser - isolating sprites of walking/running characters always makes them look silly. Note how the oldschool Sonic sprites look pretty awkward in the video too. And you get less than a second of actual in-game running footage - unless you're analyzing THAT then I don't think you'll get a fair view.

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I'm getting a little excited too. ^^ Before I was just like, 'Let's see how this plays out, Mr. Terrible Current Track Record.' But as my first video game pretty much was Sonic the Hedgehog 2, the nostalgia machine is getting cranked up.

His run does look odd, like it's too slow. I have a feeling he could easily go faster and slip back into his old infinity symbol run after that run animation.

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I'm pretty sure that's just his "walking" animation; at least that's what it looks like to me. His feet will almost definitely go into a circle (and possibly figure-8) if the player is going faster.

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Yeah hopefully that's not his fullest animation.. some dinky flaw is just what we don't need in this game. Man I hope that Sega chant is actually back in game, that made me so happy.

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XD hahah yeah me too!

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Yeah his "run" is the only thing that I believe is worth being criticized. It's still February though and things often change so I'll just wait and see. All this crap about homing attacks, old designs, and pixelated graphics is downright ridiculous.

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Despite the animation for him running i'm still looking forward to it though. Don't want people getting that twisted. If anything, i was more annoyed with the fans complaining about his eyes and homing attacks and stuff. It just seems like a tiny little thing to be complaining about.

OMG HIS EYE COLOUR HAS JUST RUINED THE GAME! ;_;

grow up, Sonickiddies.

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HOLY CRAP! :D SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4?!

I'm a bit upset that Sonic is the only playable character, though. Why can't we have Tails and Knuckles, too? Oh well. It still looks great. I haven't seen the video, yet, but I thought the graphics looked like...not 3-D. Which is fine, but they should definitely go all out with the graphics. I wonder if we get to see HD Death Egg? :D WOOT WOOT! Maybe a lil' Super Sonic? HYPER SONIC?! ULTRA SUPER MEGA UBER- -head explodes-

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Why can't we have Tails and Knuckles, too?


Because having every joe bob and jimmy playable under the sun has been VERY overdone for the past 99 years. It's not very often there's just playable Sonic. It'll be a breath of fresh air. It's not like we dont have the other characters playable enough in every other game.
If SEGA concentrates on making a game that SONIC runs through they'll have more time to concentrate on -him- and not totaly derail into a million other characters that will take development time away from the main character.

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Despite the animation for him running i'm still looking forward to it though. Don't want people getting that twisted. If anything, i was more annoyed with the fans complaining about his eyes and homing attacks and stuff. It just seems like a tiny little thing to be complaining about.

OMG HIS EYE COLOUR HAS JUST RUINED THE GAME! ;_;

grow up, Sonickiddies.


Wait till voice acting and cut scenes are possible added to this. People with *(#@! a storm.

Also I don't think adding some characters hurt anything as long as they all play the same. Back in the day, no one worried about Tails and Knuckles being playable since the levels were still almost the same with any of them. Just a few very minor differences. However, when you go from platforming through speedy levels, to fishing, then you my friend have gone too far.

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My god the lag today...

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Hmmm, Sonic 4 eh?

To quote Gerald from Hey Arnold! - "You're a bold kid, Arnold. A real bold kid."

Not to diss Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, as they were both wicked-fun games in their own right, but the old-school platformers that made Sonic famous were.. well, they made him famous! What more needs saying? XD Sega's track record of dragging Sonic through so much crap brings a bit of skepticism, even to this return to the good ol' days. They've got a LOT to prove if this is the Sonic 4 to expect!

Of course, my inner nostalgic fangirl is going *FANSCREECHx9000*. XDD And the very ideya of the figure-8 dash? HOT DIGGITY. (They should make a sequel to Sonic CD, I say, but if this is a success, then maybe...?)

As for the animation? It's probably early models and footage, so I'm not terribly worried.

Yeeeeess... I have my niggling doubts, Sega, but you have my attention... ;3

EDIT: One point my sister brought up - the fact that it's downloadable caught her interest. She reckons it's a sign that they're not being blowhard-showboats about it, they honestly want everyone to to play it. Labor of love indeed? X3

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Yes.

I don't really care about his running, but all that matters is a nice mix of speed, platforming, and Flow. This has all of the above.

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When I first heard of the game I was expecting a 2D Sonic game using the Hedgehog Engine so graphically I was a little disappointed but then gameplay makes or breaks a game not the amount of polygons flying around on the screen and from the 1 second of gameplay footage in the trailer it looks like a Hi Def version of Sonic Advance or Sonic Rush which is no bad thing so from the look of it it looks ok. So I will be keeping an eye on this one.

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http://www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/us/ well it shows a second thing that is locked in the featured characters area, so that could either be eggman or tails maybe

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I hate the name. Then again, I can't suggest anything better, so meh. Sonic's sprite is akward. There's something just not right about it... I hope Zone 1 has more detail by the time of release. It's kind of blah and colourless.

BUT OH MEH GAWSH NEW SONIC FUN TIMES. I LOVE THE SIGN.

It's really exciting me. In that last clip of the sign, Eggman seemed to have his old outfit. I can't wait to see Eggy art.

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What ticks me WAY off is that it's a download-only EPISODIC title. Unless they eventually release it on a disc, y'know, something PERMANENT that won't GO AWAY FOREVER once they shut down the network servers in a few years, I won't buy it.
This era in gaming is going to be known as the dark ages of collecting... *sad*

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What ticks me WAY off is that it's a download-only EPISODIC title. Unless they eventually release it on a disc, y'know, something PERMANENT that won't GO AWAY FOREVER once they shut down the network servers in a few years, I won't buy it.
This era in gaming is going to be known as the dark ages of collecting... *sad*

I know that with PSN, you purchase the game, so it'll remain on your console forever, I assume it's the same with the 360. But the VC on the Wii seems to be that way, that you have to access it online.. though companies should obviously have a plan in mind for that day

One thing I will say about the green eyes is it can be seen as an unnecessary detail in character design, and Sonic may look better with the more simple black (if this game featured a model like the old Japanese artworks that might be really cool, and certainly less 'controversial'). I can understand people wanting to see Sonic look like how he did in those old games this one is now following up on. But dammit if fans aren't opinionated, and have their own ideas on Sonic's ideal look.

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Yeah, with Xbox it'll be on the harddrive, so you can keep playing as long as the drive is working. I know with the original Xbox, if the drive fails you would have to re-buy any DLC but I think that with the 360 it records your purchase so you can download a back-up? Don't worry about your copy not being permanent. By the time the networks go down and your HDD fails, you will probably be able to buy a "Best of Sonic" collection with Sonic 4. (Probably a good decade off.)

My only problem with it being download-only is that I cannot have a copy on my shelves to show off. And I like having a manual. Not such a huge deal though.
This is a good idea to encourage sales. I was reading an article earlier today about how this is a sign of how gaming companies are trying to combat used game sales. (Because if someone buys a used copy of a game, the company gets no money.) Also I'm sure this game will attract huge "casual" Sonic fans who would normally be satisfied with playing for 30 minutes and saying "that's enough Sonic for me!" and would sell the game if they could.

PS: Sonic has had green eyes for over a decade, and therefore over half of his existence. I'm used to them, even the Archie comics have been using his current design since SA1.




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