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[The wise Kitsune]

Well, honestly, I loathe it. I read it expecting a Vampire novel and got a mediocre romance novel. I mean...ugh.

[Metaria]

I love to hate it. I think that the whole vampire/werewolf thing was crafted just to get more people to read it.

"Teen angst and romance!" Ugh, no thanks.
"Teen angst and romance with vampires and werewolves!" Hey, vampires and werewolves. Maybe there'll be some violence because of that...*reads* ...or not.

But yet, plenty of my friends just love it. Even one who was scared of vampire stories and was totally convinced at one point that I was a vampire thinks it's the best series ever. It's brainwashed them!

[Wrenreele]

Hate hate hate hate!
It was poorly written, it's development of characters is horrible, the characters are horrible, for a romance novel- the lovers have little to no chemistry. Seriously. "You're pretty, can I marry you?" I can go on.
And (to save those who are intending to read it but haven't):

Spoiler

SPARKLES. I MEAN, WHAT?

Also, to the authors defense, people blame the fact that she's LDS (Mormon) for there being no violence or sex, but I think because it's a book aimed at pre-teens.

[TheOrangeNightmare]

*eats book*
mrrphmm huufnmg rldks mph hsphm thielakdn ahakphafmn MAHTMR MMNOMFK!!!!! RRRRRRMMMMM!!! M shhmmml dkaih akdmm phorm, hrmrns mrs YMGH.

Translation:
I haven't read it yet, but all I hear about it is that it's another ROMANCE NOVEL!!!!!! RAAAHHH!!! Though it's a vampire book, romance is YURGH.

[Cerulean Lee]

I've heard several people saying that this author is the next JK Rowling, but more people saying how terrible the book is. I don't care much for vampires or romance, but I might pick it up to see what all the fuss is about >> << >> If I like it, one more book to add to my collection. If I don't, it'll inspire me to work on my own writing. It's a win/win for me!

[animejosse]

I've read parts from it and honestly? For all the talk about how romantic and deep Edward and Bella's love are, she sure keeps talking about his hotness and nothing else. Then there's the stalker issue. "You sneaked into my room at night and watched me sleep? How romantic!" O__o Not to mention how she keeps treating anyone that's not Edward...

[Metaria]

Not to mention how she keeps treating anyone that's not Edward...

Especially Jacob. In the last book she was leading him on. And then turned right around and was all over Edward. Ugh.

If I wrote crap like this I'd get blacklisted all across the Internet and at school. And yet Meyer does it and becomes a New York Times bestseller. The irony drives me crazy.

I haven't even read her new book, "The Host." I read the dust jacket and was like "what the crap, this is Animorphs without the animal morphing and Twilight without vampires and werewolves."

[Wrenreele]

I haven't even read her new book, "The Host." I read the dust jacket and was like "what the crap, this is Animorphs without the animal morphing and Twilight without vampires and werewolves."

I was at the airport waiting to pick up my aunt when I saw "The Host" and that was exactly what me and my boo thought. "Animorphs without animal morphing."

[Mitsuu]

Haven't read it, don't want to. My sister says it's crap and I always agree with her about literature. My brother loves it and he thinks he's a literary genius but he's actually an idiot. Also, he hated the movie Juno because it had a lot of unrealistic dialogue, but his favourite t.v. show is House. That's hypocritical.

[Mythic]

I tried finishing it, but it never caught my interest enough. Can't say I hate it because the main reason I didn't like it was the vampires, but I don't love it either.

[MagicPickleFairy]

Wow, I must be the only or first person who doesn't hate Twilight here on the thread. I mean, I'm not a squealing fangirl over it. But I found it a nice junkie read for a summer.

[NNR07]

I switch from "it's alright" to "I hate it"
I know it's suppose to be 1st person and all, but there's a point where "Edward so pertttyyy" is a little... too much.

[Murasaki Doku]

If I wanted to read stories about mary-sues, I'd go to fanfiction.net.

[Nemoide]

I have no interest in sappy novels written for teenage girls. But if this turns people on to actual horror, I approve.

One of my coworkers is really into it though?

[Lady Spritzy]

haven't read it, don't really want to read it.
too many squealing fangirls that wouldn't know Edmond Dantes from Dante's Divine Comedy read it, which doesn't help its case.
and my friend who says she is a vampire (believe her if you want- i do) is very miffed about it, saying it's not an accurate representation.
then again, isn't most of it off.

so, it goes in the "i'd rather not" catagory.

[NNR07]

saying it's not an accurate representation.

yep.
I always pull the "And the vampires sparkle in the suuunnn 8D!" gesture with my hands, and Twilightfans turn and say "Did you read the book O_O?"
I didn't, BUT:
- Crosses DON'T cause them to buuurn
- They GLITTER in the sun. GLITTER.
- Edward lacks fangs
- Edward has the mindset of a teenager, when he's much much older.
List goes on~

[Cerulean Lee]

I actually got around to reading the first book. Don't love it, don't hate it. I don't think I could go onto the sequels if there's as much mushy stuff in them, and I didn't like the characters. But I don't see why everyone says the actual composition is so bad. It seemed fine to me.

[animejosse]

The biggest thing for me (and some others) is how Bella basically has NO LIFE outside of Edward - when he disappears in the second book she's depressed to the point of complementing suicide. No one and nothing else matters to her. Oh, and there's the implication that it's okay for a guy to stalk you and watch you in your sleep without you knowing as long as he luuuuuves you and is handsome.

There's also quite a hype-backlash going on.

[Bannipper]

The biggest thing for me (and some others) is how Bella basically has NO LIFE outside of Edward - when he disappears in the second book she's depressed to the point of complementing suicide. No one and nothing else matters to her. Oh, and there's the implication that it's okay for a guy to stalk you and watch you in your sleep without you knowing as long as he luuuuuves you and is handsome.

There's also quite a hype-backlash going on.

I couldn't agree with you more. That franchise was built on idiocy. Hopefully, those drunks will sober up, and realize how pathetic the books really are. Why my mom reads it, I'll never understand.

[TORiAS_the_fallen]

Yes, it is aimed at pre-teens, but it's a good read and acuratley presents the swoon of "first love" where all you can think about is that person. I do agree that the animprph thing is LAME, but I LOVE Aro and the Volturi. Go evil vampires! Edward gets increasingly more lame, and the first is, by far, the best. But all in all, I think you're all to hard on SM.
And don't bash fanfiction, if you look hard you can find some good, plot driven stuff. Just stay away from things with OCs and you'll be fine.

[Murasaki Doku]

And don't bash fanfiction, if you look hard you can find some good, plot driven stuff. Just stay away from things with OCs and you'll be fine.

If we made exceptions to all of our generalizations, we would never get to our point, except in some cases, where the entire point is to point out the exceptions, which, by the way, are exceptions in themselves, but might be not exceptions at all but rather bizarre normalities, because nothing in the world can be generalized except for the fact that generalizations always have exceptions.

[TORiAS_the_fallen]

Hm, I understood that.
Twilght is not something I'm gaga over, but I do enjoy it a great deal. I wouldn't write Fanfiction for it, but I wil re-read it until its pages fall out.
Tales of Symphonia, on the other hand......

[Murasaki Doku]

Hm, I understood that.

Yeah. Right.

[Saifer Dracondrali]

When people tell me "Twilight is a great movie! You should see it!" I say no... I never read the book and to this day don't watch the movie, because it always sounded like something a 12 year old girl who expected to be carried away from her parents by some bad boy after her parents told her she couldn't go to a dance... Idk, why...
Vampires, "forbidden" Romance, and pretty boys...
All of these factors are vastly overused and now they fall under the same roof...

In short I'm glad I didn't make the mistake of watching it.
thx

[infractus]

Usually I can tell what's most likely good to watch or not based on how much merchandise I see for it at Hot Topic.
That's a bit biased, since I've been known to watch Naruto, and The Nightmare Before Christmas is pretty nifty... but. I think most of you could understand and sympathise that point.

I'll probably watch the movie when it ends up on our local channel 4 one weekend when we're bored out of our skulls at work.


Also, might I add, please refrain from turning this into a bloody battle ground. Keep your snarky remarks to yourself, kthx.

[Saifer Dracondrali]

God, I hope the producer of this film wasn't here to read my post then, lol
There's so many movies nowadays that there doesn't seem to be many "good" films, imo...
I just watched my Digimon the Movie VHS tape because I was bored and needed to work out to something...
and found that it's still allot better than today's movies!
...huh... can't beat the classics

[TORiAS_the_fallen]

I haven't seen the movie and have little desire to. I don't watch TV or movies, unless they're subs of rare animes on you tube. I'm more of a read- write-draw person who happens to listen to too much music and play video games till two in the morning.
Besides, the make up for the movie looks very bad- and I don't like the actors for Carisle, James, or Jasper. I would go into why, but I don't honestly think any of you care.

[Noctourne Wonderland]

Time for my two cents worth.

Let me start by saying I have not read the books or seen the movie, nor do I plan to at the moment. I'm a bit of a horror nut (Honestly, I find "Suspiria" hilarious and I quote the Crypt Keeper. Am I evil?) and I have a weakness for vampires (some think I am one, lol) so everyone says "OMG read twilight! Edward's so cuuuuuuuute! Bella's my role modelll!!!!! oh, yeah, it has vampires..."

But from what I've read, vampirism seems to be the excuse to a.) grab the horror crowd, and B.) have an excuse to make Edward perfect. Is this really the case? I'm pondering reading the books to at least understand one of my friends, who obsesses over Twilight Role play, so is it worth reading? Will I be disappointed (I'm already pretty sure that Meyer is no Bram Stoker) or pleasantly surprised (sparkly, fangless vampired might be irrelevent)

Plus the movie...is Edward described as looking like a girl in the books? No disrespect to Rober Pattinson or whatever, but in twilight he looks...womanly. The other characters look odd too, but perhaps nowadays vapires have poofy hair rather than fangs.

So help me, forumers, is it worth desperatly seeking susan the book in libraries?

[Mitsuu]

Hmm, I got my hands of a copy of this in Chemistry class one day. Didn't really read it, just skimmed, but you can literally turn to any page in the book and find something to laugh at. Actually, one of the chapters even begins with a run on sentence, if memory serves me well.

[Noctourne Wonderland]

Hmm, I got my hands of a copy of this in Chemistry class one day. Didn't really read it, just skimmed, but you can literally turn to any page in the book and find something to laugh at. Actually, one of the chapters even begins with a run on sentence, if memory serves me well.

Oh my god post some of the "highlights." Being head of the grammar police, I need something (famous) to mock.

[Mitsuu]

I would if I could, but I can't... at least at the moment. I have a friend who has it, so when school starts back up I'll borrow it from her and post some crap from it.

I really don't see how anyone even somewhat literary minded can like it because it's so badly written.

[Noctourne Wonderland]

Who said I'd take it seriously?

[Handy Candy]

Ugh. Ugh UUuuuuugh.

I wanted to see just how bad these books were, after hearing many rumors, so rather than spend days reading the book, I went to the movie theater and watched the movie.

I have to say it was one of the worst movies I've ever seen (and I've seen a heckuva lot of movies - my mom owned two movie stores when I was a kid). Here we go:

- How exactly do these two characters fall in love? Through brief, awkward, stilted conversations? Stalking? A strong desire to eat one another? Is it cause he randomly saves her life with his uberpowers? They still don't know each other, really. Maybe the book had more to it, but it seems like they just fall in love (or suddenly feel rather murderous/hungry) at first glance (or smell), which is ludicrous. That's not love, that's lust (or hunger).

- Edward is flippin' crazy. No, really. Pattinson said that he didn't really like the books (he felt like he was intruding on a mad woman's personal fantasies when he read it) and felt that Edward was manic-depressive, so that is how he played the him in the movie. Maybe it's just me, but this made his entire performance just that much more erratic, stilted, and awkward. I also don't quite get that sense of him being formal/retaining oldworld charms from the movie. I hope it's more apparent in the books.

- The minor background characters are more interesting and likeable than Edward and Bella combined. I liked Jasper a lot. The way he stared in horror at everything - very funny. The vampire Mommy and Daddy were also quite entertaining. Also, the quieliete wheelchair bound Dad. Really, just about everyone but Edward and Bella were entertaining.

- You can tell that the guy playing Jacob is wearing a wig/weave. It's terrible what they did to the poor kid's head.

- Bella is also flippin' crazy. At the end of the movie, her spastic, seizure-like reaction to Edward suggesting that he leave her is sickening. Maybe this is just bad acting on the actress's part, but this actually made me laugh out loud. Also, when they are sitting in chemistry class, she makes this weird face/tongue movement at Edward that was supposed to make her look like she wanted to say something to him, but instead ends up looking like she's trying to tongue the air. A little disturbing.

- Prom? Really? I know this is taking place in a highschool, but this is sooooo over the top, mushy crap. And the other boys trying to ask her to Prom is kinda 'eh' too. Why even bother with it in the movie if you're not really going to develop that plot line? It seemed like an after thought that was kinda tossed in for good measure, and because it was in the books. But, they could have spent more time actually developing some kind of romance between Edward and Bella instead of trying to have a whole gang of boys ask the new girl to the prom.

Oddly enough, the sparkles don't bother me. I like sparkles, though, so I'm biased. The baseball part was entertaining as well for the very small amount of time that it was on the screen. Quieliete werewolves, I am also cool with. The movie as a whole was awkward and poorly paced. It probably could have been good, but it was just so lacking. It didn't even feel like all the parts fitted together right. Also, after reading the wiki articles about the rest of the books in the series, I felt more disturbed. How come a girl who is apparently very independent, if a bit detached, turns into a suicidal moron whose existence depends on some impossibly perfect vampire? A hardened embryonic sack that has to be bitten through to get a baby out? Jacob is in love with her too? Ughhh.

[Saifer Dracondrali]

I never read the book and to this day don't watch the movie, because it always sounded like something a 12 year old girl who expected to be carried away from her parents by some bad boy after her parents told her she couldn't go to a dance... Idk, why...

- Edward is flippin' crazy. No, really. Pattinson said that he didn't really like the books (he felt like he was intruding on a mad woman's personal fantasies when he read it)

Huh... So I'm not the only one who thinks that

[Noctourne Wonderland]

- How exactly do these two characters fall in love? Through brief, awkward, stilted conversations? Stalking? A strong desire to eat one another? Is it cause he randomly saves her life with his uberpowers? They still don't know each other, really. Maybe the book had more to it, but it seems like they just fall in love (or suddenly feel rather murderous/hungry) at first glance (or smell), which is ludicrous. That's not love, that's lust (or hunger).

- Edward is flippin' crazy. No, really. Pattinson said that he didn't really like the books (he felt like he was intruding on a mad woman's personal fantasies when he read it) and felt that Edward was manic-depressive, so that is how he played the him in the movie. Maybe it's just me, but this made his entire performance just that much more erratic, stilted, and awkward. I also don't quite get that sense of him being formal/retaining oldworld charms from the movie. I hope it's more apparent in the books.

- The way he stared in horror at everything - very funny.

- You can tell that the guy playing Jacob is wearing a wig/weave. It's terrible what they did to the poor kid's head.


- Bella is also flippin' crazy. At the end of the movie, her spastic, seizure-like reaction to Edward suggesting that he leave her is sickening. Maybe this is just bad acting on the actress's part, but this actually made me laugh out loud. Also, when they are sitting in chemistry class, she makes this weird face/tongue movement at Edward that was supposed to make her look like she wanted to say something to him, but instead ends up looking like she's trying to tongue the air. A little disturbing.

The above makes me want to see the movie even more!

[StarsOfCASSiOPEiA]

I was kind of one of those "it was mediocre" people. Nothing amazing, but it wasn't downright awful.

My friends were fangirls for a time, so I read it just so they'd get off my back about it. I'm not a huge fan of vampire fiction, or romance, but it was okay.

Breaking Dawn personally scared me. >.<

And Bella? Oh gosh, don't even get me started on her. I absolutely agree with all of your comments about her- and might I mention that Edward destroyed her truck too?

[Nymph]

I decided to read the book because the movie interested me. Now I no longer want to see the movie and have no idea why this franchise is so popular. First off Bella has very little, if any, personality. She has a bunch of people trying to be nice to her and she's all focused on Edward. And honestly I'd be mortified if someone was watching me sleep at night, not be flattered. Edward I have less of a problem with if only because those little moments when he's not acting rediculously angsty and being a stalker, he's kinda funny. The characters I liked the most were Alice and Jacob.

If there something I will say I liked about the book is that, the confrontation with James at the end was pretty good and the book felt shorter than it actually was. I got through half of it in about eight hours and that's pretty good with how slowly I normally go through books.

[NNR07]

I have friends who read the book back in November and went ga-ga over it.
To me, it was more like "The '08 Election is over time to focus on something else" >:|

Because the fanfare for it ended by December. I know people who loved the books, then about 2 months later they decided it was horrible and dislike it now. I think Twilight is a fad, when it comes to the end of the day. Who would love the books so strongly if it was just themselves reading it? Who would hate them so much if it was just themselves hating it? I know I'd dislike Twilight less if it was only me hating it and no one else. I know friends who NEVER would've read it except all their friends pressured them into it.

Fads are fads and you shouldn't let yourself be swept away too much into them.

[Leonhart]

Wow......so much negativity ._.

I rather liked the books. Don't get me wrong, that doesn't stop me from thinking the Edward is freaking Bi-Polar and Bella screams Mary Sue, but i found its plot to be quite fresh.

I don't really care anyways, different people like different things.

Oh, and Alice is awesome <3

[StarsOfCASSiOPEiA]

Oh, and Alice is awesome <3

I must agree with that.