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I had a lucid dream the other night! Yay! It started out as a repeat of a dream I've been having for a long time. I'm at my gram's house or my aunt's, usually outside doing something (weird, I hate going outside). Video game items, like save spots, are littered around, and in one the Fairy Godmother's carriage from Kingdom Hearts was sitting in a corner. I keep trying to fly like NiGHTS in these dreams, fully aware that I should be able to, but simply can't. Sometimes I even think about lucid dreams, and that you can do whatever you want in them, but it never clicks.

Recently it did finally get across that I was in a dream, but even 99% lucid I had a terrible time trying to fly. Jackle was with me for some reason and kept telling me that maybe I just wasn't meant to fly in my dreams. I kept telling him he was wrong and that I'd already flown in a dream (which was a half-lie; I'd flown about for a bit before crashing). I'd get a couple of feet off the ground before losing it; my startrail stopped and I fell, or I'd jump and go higher than usual before landing, sans any startrail. It was almost Peter Pan-ish: I halfway didn't believe I could do it, but then I remembered that you can do anything in a dream. When I believed I could, I got off the ground, but it never lasted.

It was very frustrating. Anyone have advice for next time?

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Try to swim in the sky. I got lucid earlier, but didn't do much that I wouldn't do in a dream excluding trying to go to my fanmaren's quarters.

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Try to swim in the sky. I got lucid earlier, but didn't do much that I wouldn't do in a dream excluding trying to go to my fanmaren's quarters.


Swim in the sky, eh? Sounds promising! I don't know how to swim though, lol. I don't think that'll inhibit my efforts too much, really, since one can do anything in a dream(technically. if that were the case I wouldn't have this problem). I'll just go off of what I know and have seen. X3 thank you!

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I had a lucid dream the other night! Yay! It started out as a repeat of a dream I've been having for a long time. I'm at my gram's house or my aunt's, usually outside doing something (weird, I hate going outside). Video game items, like save spots, are littered around, and in one the Fairy Godmother's carriage from Kingdom Hearts was sitting in a corner. I keep trying to fly like NiGHTS in these dreams, fully aware that I should be able to, but simply can't. Sometimes I even think about lucid dreams, and that you can do whatever you want in them, but it never clicks.

Recently it did finally get across that I was in a dream, but even 99% lucid I had a terrible time trying to fly. Jackle was with me for some reason and kept telling me that maybe I just wasn't meant to fly in my dreams. I kept telling him he was wrong and that I'd already flown in a dream (which was a half-lie; I'd flown about for a bit before crashing). I'd get a couple of feet off the ground before losing it; my startrail stopped and I fell, or I'd jump and go higher than usual before landing, sans any startrail. It was almost Peter Pan-ish: I halfway didn't believe I could do it, but then I remembered that you can do anything in a dream. When I believed I could, I got off the ground, but it never lasted.

It was very frustrating. Anyone have advice for next time?

I think it's easier for you to fly in your dreams when you have experienced things in real life that give you an idea of what flying would feel like. One day my family, some friends, and I were in the car for a long time. I rolled down the window and let the wind rush through my hair. I ended up with a tangled mess at the end of the ride, but that night I had one of the best flying dreams ever. I could feel the wind in my face and everything, and I was lucid, too. Roller-coasters might also help.

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One 'technique' that I've been trying lately (with minor success, but still better than almost anything else) is something I used to do involuntarily as a child which I think explains how I was able to have so many lucid dreams when younger. I would kind of turn the tables on my mind a bit. I daydream a lot and I often get bored trying to fall asleep, so sometimes I would imagine things and pretend that everything I was thinking about was already a dream, hoping to influence what I'd dream about or fall asleep and dream about something cool faster. On rare occasion, this actually lead me to perform a WILD of sorts. I would start to see what I could guess was hypnagogic imagery, because I would see strange things in my room and be able to climb out my window and such. Now I actually use it as a conscious method to try and work out a WILD, by pretending that everything I'm hearing (if I have music or a TV on) or thinking about, even if it's just laying in my bed in my room, is already a lucid dream, and sometimes I'm able to keep awareness while my brain enters the sleeping stage. Usually I'm not able to retain it though and I would wake up suddenly with a knee jerk or a few times with sleep paralysis.

It's still something I have to work at. The hardest part for me is becoming lucid while in REM sleep, I don't seem to have much trouble when it's NREM but I think that's because your brain isn't in the full "resting stage" when some of the most vivid dreams happen, so a lot of the time if I'm in an NREM state I simply wake up. It's the REM dreams where you don't wake up and they seem the most real.

I do get a lot of cases of sleep paralysis as well if I'm taking a nap while my parents are making dinner for example, because it's a lot of noise that my mind can anchor onto in reality while I still fall asleep, and I find myself being awake and asleep at the same time, completely unable to move and often loud static or something like rushing water in my ears. It's kind of scary because sometimes I've felt frightened or threatened for no real reason, and my background is Scandinavian so I've grown up with the myth of the old hag that people hallucinate about during sleep paralysis, so I always have the fear that when I try to induce a lucid dream something will scare me or I'll have a bad experience. So I'm also working on teaching myself that nothing can hurt me while dreaming.

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I can lucid dream but i frightens me.... you see i get all stiff and i become aware of the fact that i'm hardly breathing but when i see reala.... i want to stay there for ever.... and that scares me..... i'm very afride of dieing in my sleep, and not knowing that i'm dead................. i don't like the idea of Nonexitance, *huggs self* it's propably my biggest fear...........

But I still want to do it more. any advice will be welcome *bows*

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I've lucid dreamed plenty before, usually because of a nightmare, but I can't seem to do a WILD. My body won't cooperate. Now that I know what a WILD is, I realize that there have been several times when I almost had it. The visions would come, but just as I felt myself sinking into sleep, my body would twitch and I'd wake up with a jolt. Mom says she actually has gone through sleep paralysis when she was younger. It scared the living daylights out of her and she can't understand why I want to do it. If anyone can give me some tips on how to keep still, that would be great.

But anyways, my lucid dreaming is often triggered by a nightmare and a little bit of questioning while awake. I don't ask myself "Is this a dream?" when I'm awake. I wake up from a dream, say to myself that whatever just happened in the dream is impossible in real life (ex: "Flying cars are not real. That happens only in dreams."), and fall back asleep. Sometimes this helps me recognize a dream in a non-nightmare situation. I've also found that actually saying that it's a dream while in a semi-lucid state increases awareness.

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I found another pretty good site focused more so on LD methods rather than information.
http://members.aol.c...eere/index.html

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I have two questions.

First, how exactly do you make yourself sleep for five hours?

Also, where could I get my hands on an amethyst/quartz crystal? I honestly just can't think of anywhere I'd be able to buy one around here.

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Drink tea, and set a really loud alarm

Your local Earthbound Trading Company store or jewel store will carry them.

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Hmm, Earthbound. I've heard of them but I don't think we have any of those around here. :(

And wow, I totally forgot about alarms. I've never used one. Ever.

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While my method isn't exactly a highly tested one, it has worked for me in the past. That was, up until the point where I became unable to tolerate dairy products.

The Lactose Landmine

This is a one-day diet change, and it tends to result in more vivid (and most of the time lucid) dreams for those who try it. Not recommended for the lactose intolerant.

The day before you do this, refrain from ingesting any high-sugar or high caffeine products (I personally count things that contain High Fructose Cornsyrup), or at the least keep them to a minimum. The day you do this, continue keeping those things out of your diet. 75% to 90% of what you eat that day should be dairy. Milk, cheese, yogurt. .. Low sugar ice cream. When you go to sleep that night, you should have more vivid dreams, and may even become lucid.



See if that works for any of you.

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While my method isn't exactly a highly tested one, it has worked for me in the past. That was, up until the point where I became unable to tolerate dairy products.

The Lactose Landmine

This is a one-day diet change, and it tends to result in more vivid (and most of the time lucid) dreams for those who try it. Not recommended for the lactose intolerant.

The day before you do this, refrain from ingesting any high-sugar or high caffeine products (I personally count things that contain High Fructose Cornsyrup), or at the least keep them to a minimum. The day you do this, continue keeping those things out of your diet. 75% to 90% of what you eat that day should be dairy. Milk, cheese, yogurt. .. Low sugar ice cream. When you go to sleep that night, you should have more vivid dreams, and may even become lucid.



See if that works for any of you.


That sounds interesting. I will have to try that soon, I'm open to anything.

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It's more than likely caused by the temporary shift in diet. .. Or something.

You can also try melatonin, which is an over the counter sleep aid, but isn't habit forming (as your body builds up a resistance to it as you keep taking it, etc. etc.)

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I've recently found that lucid dreams occur more often for me when I just sleep in longer. I read in a book about dreaming that lucid dreams happen most often between 5 am and 8 am in the morning. Of course, it varies depending on the individual. You might even have them more often within an hour or so outside the box.

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The handful of times I've been lucid (and realized it), it's been completely by accident. XDDD Yes, I epic fail at lucidity. I've only had one dream where I was lucid most/all the way through (or even for any significant amount of the dream), and I was... a snowy owl. Best. Dream. Ever. 8D There were clouds everywhere and the ground was so green and there was this castle and a beach. ;0; It was gorgeous! I definitely had control over my flying, although I doubt I had any say in what the landscape looked like.

EDIT: I'm sorry, was this topic dead? D: *hits self*

And can you enter a WILD while waking up, because this one dream I had (actually, my first dream where NiGHTS made a definitively physical appearance) may have been one, mostly due to the fact I think I remember trying to move my arms and actually felt that I wasn't able to (the heavy-as-lead feeling... with a possible slight tingling). 0----0;;; And yeah, this is another one of those few instances where I remember being lucid, despite not being able to do anything regardless.

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Nah, it hasn't even been a month since my post, so I think you're okay. Congratulations on that lucid dream! <_<

I think you can have a WILD while waking up because I've had sleep paralysis while waking up, too. I never let myself stay that way for long, but I think I could've slipped back in a dream if I had. My instinct was telling me that, anyways, and it's good to trust your subconscious on that kinda stuff (except if it tells you you're not dreaming. Then watch out! lol).

There was one recent time, though, when I was jerked out of a dream for some reason (I didn't do it, honest!) and at least thought I woke up. I could feel the couch underneath me, and my pillow over my head ('cause I was lying on my stomach). I thought I could move, but I didn't check. What makes me suspect I might have been under sleep paralysis, or at least not fully awake yet, is that I was able to slip back into a dream. It felt like my body was sliding forward, burrowing through the pillow and blankets, but I knew it wasn't. Didn't bother me a bit, except I hoped it wouldn't be a dream about a tight underground tunnel. I have a slight claustrophobia. >_< But what's most suggestive of a WILD is that I almost immediately had another dream. It was a false awakening, but I realized that soon enough. I looked around for my dream diary anyways to write down my previous dream. XD

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Sweet~ You should try putting an amethyst or a quartz (non-cracked) crystal under your pillow. It can help you remember more and add zest to your dreams. @w@


My mother had me try a similar technique once when I was itty bitty. She gave me a crystal and told me if I slept with it under my pillow and thought of what dream I wanted until I fell asleep, I'd get that dream.

...of course, my choice of dream was Care Bears XD

It only worked once though, for some reason ):

But still, it was fun riding in the sky in the that little cloud car that night...


Edit: Erm, guess I should've looked when the last time someone posted on this topic ^^' My bad

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Please watch this video, especially if you have experienced sleep paralysis as a result of trying to lucid dream:



Thankyou and the Lord bless you all.

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Oh my goodness, that's hilarious!

(I honestly can't tell if it's a joke, trolling, or actually serious.)

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I've just experienced another sleep paralysis moment. Second in my life. First one was in late August of this year after dreaming about Iizuka showing me a glitchy build of NiGHTS 3(LOL, don't ask).

This time I was dreaming about being in my web design class... i was sitting at the computer.. and then all of a sudden everything blacks out. Then I'm back at the computer and for some reason the time bar stood out to me. don't really remember why. Then I heard a loud buzz/horn like noise and woke up to my room... only to see some weird floaty thing that formed into a floating skull! Lmao. Was scary at the time. but thinking about it now is funny.

Funny thing is. I knew it was only sleep paralysis... and I was able to wake myself up. and right after I woke myself up I drifted back into sleep paralysis almost immediately and the buzz noise came back and I was getting scared and decided to wake myself up again before it got any worse and turned on my lights.

and yup... I'm interested.. yet scared to experience that moment again. I think I know how to pretty much trigger it now. but I don't know if I want to try again... would be neat if I could lead it to lucid dreaming.. but... the whole sleep paralysis thing is scary.

The first time it happened to me I was scared out of my mind. I've actually had dreams where I've interacted with the environment before, not sure if that counts as lucid dreaming.

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Sorry to kind of being bumping a relatively old topic, but I had this question that I'd really like to have answered.

I made my first conscious attempts at Lucid Dreaming about two weeks ago. On the first day that I tried, I dreamed very vividly. The following day, I tried again and dreamed very vividly, too. However - and this is my main question - I am not quite sure I was entirely controlling myself in the dreams. On the first dream, I started singing a song I normally do, when I've got nothing to do. Very idiosyncratic of me in the dream. Are you supposed to remember having been lucid in the dream? Because I really remember the dream and what happened, and I can remember my emotions and feelings throughout it, but I'm not 100% sure I was controlling myself. Is it just the way it is?

Another thing is, I didn't do anything that I had previously 'planned' to do, once in a dream. Help?


Thanks and, again, sorry for bringing this up out of the blue. I feel that this thread should be stickied, since it's such a main aspiration in dreaming...

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Well, guess since none of the mods have said anything so far, it's probably alright that you bumped it. ^_^

As for lucid dreaming...In my personal experience, I don't think a lot in my actual lucid dreams about me being lucid. If I do start thinking about it too intently, I actually start waking up. I sometimes tell myself I'll do things in my dreams, but usually I forget those goals once I'm dreaming. Some people can hold onto those goals, others can't. It just depends on the person, and it doesn't determine whether you're lucid dreaming or not. I do remember controlling my dreams when I lucid dream, though. It's just like daydreaming, except it surrounds you. In dreams, you usually control yourself. With lucid dreaming, you can control the environment, too, including stuff like gravity that affects your "body" :D

I hope I answered all of your questions.

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Thank you very much, Penelopi =)

You did answer everything, but I do have one question, still. In my dreams, I only think I was lucid. I'm not really sure. Is that how it is for everyone, is it never a really memorable conscious experience?


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Sometimes it's memorable, sometimes it's not. There have been times where I woke up unable to remember the dream but remembered that I knew I was dreaming. There have also been times when I woke up that I had to sit and think about it before saying, "Yeah, it was lucid." Or "No, it wasn't." Or sometimes even "I was lucid for only part of the time." So it varies, and it's probably not just you. :rolleyes:

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I get that, too, sometimes. I've been trying to get lucid, so far, through the WILD method. Working on it ; )

Thanks again =)

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I have discovered a weird method to Lucid Dream, this will sound crazy but it has worked for me twice and does rely on luck a bit
1. This method works somewhere where there is a PA system (both of these Lucid dreams happened on a plane)
2. Fall asleep (compulsory)
3. Dream normally until there is a message on the PA, hopefully this message will help you regain some consciousness, but at the same time not be completely awake
4. While in this state do not open your eyes or even move a muscle, that will only make it more likely that you will not fall asleep again
5. Keep thinking about the dream you have just had, it may be helpful to pretend to talk to whoever was in your dream about it
6. The hope is that you fall back asleep, the person/dream you were reminding yourself of will reappear and bam! you will realise that you are dreaming and the fate of the dream is under your control

It may not always work though, that method worked fine with me (both times it was Reala for a weird reason)
In total I have had 4 Lucid dreams (all involving nightmaren) and plan to have more

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I have discovered a weird method to Lucid Dream, this will sound crazy but it has worked for me twice and does rely on luck a bit
1. This method works somewhere where there is a PA system (both of these Lucid dreams happened on a plane)
2. Fall asleep (compulsory)
3. Dream normally until there is a message on the PA, hopefully this message will help you regain some consciousness, but at the same time not be completely awake
4. While in this state do not open your eyes or even move a muscle, that will only make it more likely that you will not fall asleep again
5. Keep thinking about the dream you have just had, it may be helpful to pretend to talk to whoever was in your dream about it
6. The hope is that you fall back asleep, the person/dream you were reminding yourself of will reappear and bam! you will realise that you are dreaming and the fate of the dream is under your control

It may not always work though, that method worked fine with me (both times it was Reala for a weird reason)
In total I have had 4 Lucid dreams (all involving nightmaren) and plan to have more

I'll be on a plane in a couple of days, so I'll have to try that! I'll let you know if it works. :D

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I'll be on a plane in a couple of days, so I'll have to try that! I'll let you know if it works. :D

Okay good luck!

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Whoa, crazy bump time! :D

Well, I'm not very good at becoming TOTALLY lucid, but when I do, it's always because in the middle of a dream I notice I'm dreaming.

I haven't gone lucid in a while, but for the past 2 or 3 nights, I have had mini lucid experiences without even trying! I would only be lucid enough to change a few things to my liking, however, and then continue on with my uncontrolled dream. For example, last night I was having a very Doctor Who-ish dream, and when I met the Doctor, I was bummed it was the 11th Doctor instead of the 10th, so (since I knew I was dreaming) I changed him to the 10th (since everyone knows David Tennant is better than Matt Smith!).

And the other night, I was in some sort of treehouse village. This random person started inflating himself with air, and he floated off a balcony. I realized I was dreaming and wanted to fly to go get him, but I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to. So instead I made a bottle of flying juice (and I made sure NiGHTS was on the bottle! :P) and drank it, then went to get him. And I resumed my uncontrolled dream, but was able to float/fly.

I love it though, and I remember everything so clearly! I really hope I can keep doing this. It's awesome. :lol:

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To Lucid Dream, I always do the 'Wake Initiated Lucid Dream' method. It seems most easiest for me. I find it really fun actually knowing your in a dream! One way of seeing if it's a Lucid Dream and that you are in charge is that I try to play a certain song in the background of my dream, (it's mostly NiGHTS OST for me). My favourite track to play whil in a dream is 'Cruising Together' from JoD.






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