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My first NiGHTS fanart. (critique please!)


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here is my artwork For NiGHTS so far, one image XD

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I would appreciate good critique =3

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This is beautiful! I like the way you outline.
Crit: You have to resize this to at least 25% like this:
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Also the only real thing that bugs me is the hands seem a little too big/fat... the one closest to us has a line in the palm where a line shouldn't be... other then that this is a wonderful drawing. ^_^

EDIT: I realized the line is fine in the hand but the shading is what is making it weird to me... maybe add some shading on the thumb or ass a different line...
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This is beautiful! I like the way you outline.
Crit: You have to resize this to at least 25% like this:
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Also the only real thing that bugs me is the hands seem a little too big/fat... the one closest to us has a line in the palm where a line shouldn't be... other then that this is a wonderful drawing. ^_^

EDIT: I realized the line is fine in the hand but the shading is what is making it weird to me... maybe add some shading on the thumb or ass a different line...
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Thanks alot :3 gives me new knowledge of what I need to do, I also think I made him/her shorter XDDD

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I also made a banner based on NiGHTS for a Lilo & Stitch Forum and a friend of mine made a skin for it =3

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This is a very sweet picture! My suggestion, though, would be to slim NiGHTS down a it and experiment with the structure underneath the drawing. As is, he looks like a pillow and I want to squeeze him! ^^ I love the background a lot, too.

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the stock images on the site work wonders :3

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: O If I only had a brain.

Actually, I meant to tell you that there's an opensource program I use that let's you scale down the size of your art without damaging the image. It's called Irfanview. If you google it, you'll probably find it super easy. But, it wonderful for posting on message boards and stuff like this. : )

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: O If I only had a brain.

Actually, I meant to tell you that there's an opensource program I use that let's you scale down the size of your art without damaging the image. It's called Irfanview. If you google it, you'll probably find it super easy. But, it wonderful for posting on message boards and stuff like this. : )


Oh but I think I can do that with photoshop to >>;; but I can still look into that maybe for my animations, thanks for the input. and to Purgatory: I got rid of some things in my sig like you asked, sorry if they were a problem XD

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just some sketches... that owl is annoying of course I don't exactly know if in the previous first NiD that the Dream world calls us "Visitors" >>;;


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I swear to god I was "on crack" when I made this... @_@ *runs away from Reala fans*

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kawaii ^_^ in the first NiD there were no references to 'visitors' or any of that.. Owl is brand new to JoD. In the first one, you just start the game up, plop into a dreamscape and go

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Very nice pictures. For the first one the hands were already mentioned, and this looks more to be chibi like. I'd say NiGHTS head looks squished and somewhat a bit mishapen. Other then that it's a very beautiful image!

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New NiGHTS related art YEY! <3

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This is my fanmaren, iLLUSE.

Ever since the second "fall" of Wiseman (Wiseman has ways of comming back...) other Nightmaren of high ranks began to have actually taken betrayal into consideration, NiGHTS being their new and more benevolent leader. The new smaller group of Nightmaren are known as the Maren Resistance, or Dream world Freedom Fighters (now where have I heard Freedom Fighters before? XD) iLLUSE was one of the few first to join. He, just like NiGHTS, wasn't really all that evil deep inside him to begin with despite his appearance. He was considered a rebellious teenager by Wiseman and wasn't very useful in his book (yes folks, I am calling iLLUSE a HE for he has a confirmed gender just like Reala lol).

iLLUSE always had a great desire to bring music to the dreaming world thus the reason for his constant playing of the "nonexistant" Piano in his previous Lair. When Wiseman was supposedly defeated, iLLUSE was lucky to be launched into the real world like NiGHTS and a few other missing maren. When iLLUSE met up with NiGHTS who had found two other Nightmaren and all were planing to create the Maren Resistance, he was more then happy to join them, finally getting the freedom to bring his music to life in the realms of Nightopia. iLLUSE can't really spin dash very well, so for powerful enemies, his next best choice is his tresured Violin as a weapon(think of his special attack as a ear shattering horrible screeching on the violin being done on purpose lol). He plays the Violin well however when he's not in danger and is out and about with his fellow resistance Nightmaren and Vistor friends.

His personality consist of him personally feeling insecure and is easily scared in battle against emesely powerful enemies(blame that on Wiseman's constant scolding to him for playing his music all day lol)He's very charming otherwise and always wants to show his friends any new music he composes or any new songs he learns and writes(did I mention his an excellent singer? 8D; ). iLLUSE was not born from Wiseman himself, but of two other Nightmaren parents who were two of NiGHTS MANY siblings, So NiGHTS is technically iLLUSE's uncle/aunt.

wow that's some description huh? XD tell me what you guys think!

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New NiGHTS related art YEY! <3

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It's a nice character design but you've fallen into the trap of a NiGHTS clone

This is my fanmaren, iLLUSE.

Ever since the second "fall" of Wiseman (Wiseman has ways of comming back...) other Nightmaren of high ranks began to have actually taken betrayal into consideration, NiGHTS being their new and more benevolent leader. The new smaller group of Nightmaren are known as the Maren Resistance, or Dream world Freedom Fighters (now where have I heard Freedom Fighters before? XD) iLLUSE was one of the few first to join.

He, just like NiGHTS, wasn't really all that evil deep inside him to begin with despite his appearance. - Now here's my problem with fancharacters (I'm not bitching, just warning) Not all maren will be like NiGHTS, infact, if you read NiGHTS lore, you will understand that most maren adore Wizeman. He is their "father" and their creator. Why would all of them rebel against the being that can ultimately destroy them?

He was considered a rebellious teenager by Wiseman and wasn't very useful in his book (yes folks, I am calling iLLUSE a HE for he has a confirmed gender just like Reala lol).

iLLUSE always had a great desire to bring music to the dreaming world thus the reason for his constant playing of the "nonexistant" Piano in his previous Lair. When Wiseman was supposedly defeated, iLLUSE was lucky to be launched into the real world like NiGHTS and a few other missing maren. When iLLUSE met up with NiGHTS who had found two other Nightmaren and all were planing to create the Maren Resistance, he was more then happy to join them, finally getting the freedom to bring his music to life in the realms of Nightopia. iLLUSE can't really spin dash very well, so for powerful enemies, his next best choice is his tresured Violin as a weapon(think of his special attack as a ear shattering horrible screeching on the violin being done on purpose lol). He plays the Violin well however when he's not in danger and is out and about with his fellow resistance Nightmaren and Vistor friends.

His personality consist of him personally feeling insecure and is easily scared in battle against emesely powerful enemies(blame that on Wiseman's constant scolding to him for playing his music all day lol)He's very charming otherwise and always wants to show his friends any new music he composes or any new songs he learns and writes(did I mention his an excellent singer? 8D; ).

iLLUSE was not born from Wiseman himself, but of two other Nightmaren parents who were two of NiGHTS MANY siblings, So NiGHTS is technically iLLUSE's uncle/aunt. - I'll be honest: Your character was good until then, then he became just another run of the mill mary sue maren =/ Remove any ties to NiGHTS and you got a winner. Too many fans try too hard to make all maren related. Avoid that completely, your character can then blossom and you're not relying on a lore you've strung to be a basis for character development. I originally made Aura NiGHTS' sister for goodness sake. But as I grew wiser to fan communities, I realized how silly it was and soon Aura became a low ranked maren with limited freedom and a deep loyalty to her master. Not every single maren

wow that's some description huh? XD tell me what you guys think!


You wanted what we thought and I think you've demonstrated the problem with creating fanmaren- No originality and falling back on the silly idea that NiGHTS and Reala have siblings. And hang on, did you realize what you've just done - but of two other Nightmaren parents who were two of NiGHTS MANY siblings - doesn't that qualify as incest? o_O Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm not being mean, I'm just pointing out where you could improve and develop.

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falling back on the silly idea that NiGHTS and Reala have siblings

Hmm, I don't see what's wrong with that. As you said Wizeman is the "father" of the Nightmarens, so technically they're all siblings. Reala even called NiGHTS his sibling in JoD. I'd rather have fanmarens which are NiGHTS's siblings than fanmarens not created by Wizeman.

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I second what Kentilan says. With the incest issue, I guess it depends on how you look about it. Since they were created by Wizeman instead of being born like humans, they might be "genetically" different enough for there to be no risk of deformed babies. Factors such as genetics might not even come into play in the dream world. After all, it has totally different physics and rules from our world. What about the Nightopians? I'm not sure who breeds with who in my My Dream.

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Can I just point out something: Not all maren ARE JoD fanmaren! I've had Aura for nearly 5 years =/ She's a NiD fanmaren. Not all of us base our maren on the sequeal. Not all of us use that universe. So you can follow one set of rules and we'll follow ours.

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Lets not make an big issue out of this. There is no true explanation for any of this stuff, so really nobody can be right or wrong. Its a matter of preference. A fanmaren is a fanmaren- JoD or NiD.

Just don't get pushy about the right and wrong, people, since everybody just goes their own way.

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Yeah, unlike most other fandoms we don't have much canon to go after, so we have a bit more freedom with fanon.

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Anyways, you were looking for critique for your first picture? It's very cute, but it looks like you're using the burn/dodge tools to shade and highlight. That's not generally a good idea if you're not experienced with those tools. But if you really want to do it that way, here's a tutorial that may help you.
http://j8d.deviantar...d-Burn-54596587

There's many different ways to color your art but if you need help, DeviantART has many tutorials available (you just got to search them). Or I could direct you to some interesting ones if you want.

Another thing is the background. While that bg goes along with the NiGHTS theme well, it's not a good to use other pictures for backgrounds. You should try to make your own, it'll look more finished and professional. If you have a hard time with this, instead of trying to think up a bg after you already drew something, you could just make some practice backgrounds where you're not focusing on any characters.

Good Luck! I hope to see more drawings from you!! :)

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bright colores mix well with the dark colors in these pics gj
I like iLLUSE's eye's btw they look almost alien O_o
very cool

Peace!

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Yeah, unlike most other fandoms we don't have much canon to go after, so we have a bit more freedom with fanon.


If that was true, people wouldn't have had a go at me when I first designed Aura =_= I got told off for giving her hair and a sword...but whatever.




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