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Reala and Helen
#1
Posted 30 December 2007 - 05:28 AM

"Poor, poor visitor. Betrayed by someone you thought was a friend, and now you're all alone."
Do you think maybe...Reala is thinking of what happened between him and NiGHTS? If so, that's REALLY deep, Sonic Team! Good job!
Please speculate.
#2
Posted 30 December 2007 - 07:27 AM

#3
Posted 30 December 2007 - 07:51 AM

He acts nasty about it but he's always trying to just cage him up so he can be brought back. Probably if he wanted to do NiGHTS any real harm, he could do so easily.
'course, it's all open to interpretation XP
#4
Posted 30 December 2007 - 08:21 AM

#5
Posted 30 December 2007 - 10:54 AM

in that particular scene he was drawing the warp circle around helen... so that could have been just his concentration split between his manipulative speech and the spell
OR...Reala was actually crying on the inside.
#6
Posted 30 December 2007 - 02:00 PM

#7
Posted 30 December 2007 - 03:58 PM

#8
Posted 30 December 2007 - 04:29 PM

#9
Posted 30 December 2007 - 04:29 PM

I'm gonna be shot for saying this, but could it be due to bad acting?
Possibly. Video games tend to have bad acting. It's over-emphazised and sounds warped to me. I hear Shadow the Hedgehog talk and I immediately think Clint Eastwood for some reason.
#10
Posted 30 December 2007 - 07:21 PM

Yes actually, It DID sound like that. I noticed that when he said "you're so, so...Alone.", A bit of sadness crept into his voice. I really think he was thinking about himself and NiGHTS.Did anyone else notice that whenever Reala was talking to Helen, he sounded like his mind was somewhere else?
...Either that, Or that sad tone in his voice was some strange part of my imagination... *Shrugs*
#11
Posted 30 December 2007 - 07:39 PM

I thought that too, but then I noticed him making the hole around Helen. As someone has already said earlier, he was probably just trying to sound sad in order to distract and circle her. He may not have had strong feelings of that at all. I have seen many villians in the past use such acting merly for that purpose and they sounded like they cared too. But they didn't. He was just trying to be deciving. He probably could have just made the hold and shoved Helen in there with his foot, but that would not have been as cool.Yes actually, It DID sound like that. I noticed that when he said "you're so, so...Alone.", A bit of sadness crept into his voice. I really think he was thinking about himself and NiGHTS.
...Either that, Or that sad tone in his voice was some strange part of my imagination... *Shrugs*
The whole fact that Reala feels betrayed by NiGHTS is all fan speculation. It is not offically know. For all we know, he could be happy about NiGHTS being gone, but he must carry out his duty and do as Wizeman says. In believe he says something along the lines of not wanting to take NiGHTS by force, but he does not want to face Wizeman's wrath himself. We just don't know. But the JOD makes it seem he only half cares about NiGHTS. He seems more worried about getting Wizeman upset more than anything. So he needs to bring NiGHTS in no matter what.
#12
Posted 30 December 2007 - 07:44 PM

#13
Posted 30 December 2007 - 07:50 PM

So yeah.. the sad tone you hear is just to act if he cares... but we'll find out later if it is officially true...
#14
Posted 30 December 2007 - 08:35 PM

#15
Posted 30 December 2007 - 08:46 PM

#16
Posted 30 December 2007 - 08:58 PM

Actually at the beginning of Helen's story, Reala rams NiGHTS into a door and holds him there for awhile.I still think he truly has some sort of brotherly feelings towards NiGHTS. Like I said, he never lays a hand on NiGHTS at all. Never. Not one finger, almost like he's afraid he'll hurt him.
As for the circle, maybe they needed to be doubtful but I am not sure. Actually, Reala pushed Will into the hole earlier in the game, and it was berfore he found out about NiGHTS being an nightmaren and getting all doubtful.
#17
Posted 30 December 2007 - 09:15 PM

Yeah, I just remembered that. XD That looked like it hurt, but Reala's probably capable of a lot worse.Actually at the beginning of Helen's story, Reala rams NiGHTS into a door and holds him there for awhile.
As for the circle, maybe they needed to be doubtful but I am not sure. Actually, Reala pushed Will into the hole earlier in the game, and it was berfore he found out about NiGHTS being an nightmaren and getting all doubtful.
Door: 1 NiGHTS: 0
Reala's so grabby in this game. Every time you see him he's trying to take someone hostage. It doesn't really work, either... if he'd just bash a few heads together I'm sure he'd be more successful. He's surprisingly patient and nonviolent, considering he's the evil guy...
#18
Posted 30 December 2007 - 09:27 PM

He isn't that grabby, but he is a little. NiGHTS always get taken hostage by the cage but he doesn't have to touch him to do that. There are then only two other occasions I can think of with him grabbing. ONe was when he grabed both Will and Helen, and the the time he grabed Will and started talking about "getting what I want" or something along those lines.Yeah, I just remembered that. XD That looked like it hurt, but Reala's probably capable of a lot worse.
Door: 1 NiGHTS: 0
Reala's so grabby in this game. Every time you see him he's trying to take someone hostage. It doesn't really work, either... if he'd just bash a few heads together I'm sure he'd be more successful. He's surprisingly patient and nonviolent, considering he's the evil guy...
As for not being that violent...yeah he really isn't. Even his bio makes him seem he would be but he is not in this game. He is more of the scheming type.
#19
Posted 30 December 2007 - 10:50 PM

Something else though, Reala makes an interesting point in that scene. Why WAS NiGHTS wearing that random mask in Crystal Castle? My first thought was "Oh cool the dolphin persona, I'm gonna wear it for no reason!" but it wasn't the dolphin persona. It was actually the same kind of mask Reala was wearing.
#20
Posted 31 December 2007 - 01:12 AM

But seriously, he was just trying to sound convincing, notice how he's BEHIND Helen so that she won't see his unconcerned face.
Also, he's not as violent as I'd hoped, but him ramming into NiGHTS semi-makes up for it. Also threatening to kill Willy-will.
#21
Posted 31 December 2007 - 01:49 AM

1. Assail Helen with verbal irony
2. Do a little more mental damage in unison with tossing her into Will's dream.
That's what I got, anyway.
#22
Posted 31 December 2007 - 01:55 AM

Huh... Really? Reala: 1 DAiLiGHT: PWN'D. I could have sworn he never touched him.... Damn, I'm dumb. I just played that scene earlier today! Bloooooooooooooody hell. *slaps self with fish*Actually at the beginning of Helen's story, Reala rams NiGHTS into a door and holds him there for awhile.
#23
Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:05 AM

Something else though, Reala makes an interesting point in that scene. Why WAS NiGHTS wearing that random mask in Crystal Castle? My first thought was "Oh cool the dolphin persona, I'm gonna wear it for no reason!" but it wasn't the dolphin persona. It was actually the same kind of mask Reala was wearing.
Ah, NiGHTS probably thought that it went well with the enviroment and decided to great Helen like the funny masked jester he was not thinking maybe, just maybe, there might be consequences to it. Oops!
#24
Posted 31 December 2007 - 05:46 AM

(swoons and goes off to dream about the possibilities)
#25
Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:45 PM

leads up to the NEXT game where Reala defects and joins the Nights Team. WOOTZ! but there is typical SEGA style angst involved...and in the end he back-stabbs/gets tricked back to evil...and NEW more exciting villains raise to challenge Reala and Nights... and you have the option to 2p their butts!!!!
(swoons and goes off to dream about the possibilities)
lol like shadow the hedgehog? XD
#26
Posted 31 December 2007 - 06:35 PM

Ah its ok. We all forget a lot of things sometimes.Huh... Really? Reala: 1 DAiLiGHT: PWN'D. I could have sworn he never touched him.... Damn, I'm dumb. I just played that scene earlier today! Bloooooooooooooody hell. *slaps self with fish*
#27
Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:03 PM

Ah its ok. We all forget a lot of things sometimes.
Well, anyway, I still thinks Reala is concealing more emotion than he lets on.
#28
Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:20 PM

Lets not forget that you actually have to fight him... ha ha that requires some harmful contact.Huh... Really? Reala: 1 DAiLiGHT: PWN'D. I could have sworn he never touched him.... Damn, I'm dumb. I just played that scene earlier today! Bloooooooooooooody hell. *slaps self with fish*
#29
Posted 31 December 2007 - 09:06 PM

That's something I've wanted to discuss here. What was NiGHTS doing before Helen walked into Crystal Castle that NiGHTS was wearing the mask he was so reluctant to wear in the first place? Did NiGHTS actually consider turning himself in to Wizeman? The thought gives me hives.Something else though, Reala makes an interesting point in that scene. Why WAS NiGHTS wearing that random mask in Crystal Castle? My first thought was "Oh cool the dolphin persona, I'm gonna wear it for no reason!" but it wasn't the dolphin persona. It was actually the same kind of mask Reala was wearing.
Do the masks do anything besides sticking to NiGHTS and Reala's faces? Maybe, with time, the masks allow them to assimilate their "U.V" form or something.
#30
Posted 31 December 2007 - 09:41 PM

That's what I'm thinking.Lol, the voice acting was okay, not bad, but I dont think Reala was going deep. I think he was just trying to convince helen.
#31
Posted 31 December 2007 - 10:06 PM

Reala probably cares more about NiGHTS than he lets on. I sort of got the impression that he didn't actually want to hurt NiGHTS, just was angry at him for running off and shirking his duty. Reala lost his partner in crime and got stuck with all the work while NiGHTS gets to go and play around.
He acts nasty about it but he's always trying to just cage him up so he can be brought back. Probably if he wanted to do NiGHTS any real harm, he could do so easily.
'course, it's all open to interpretation XP
I agree with this comment, especially in light of the way Reala spoke to NiGHTS in Delight City. Reala seemed to almost be warning NiGHTS. The jist of what he said was something like "I must warn you that our master is displeased by your [I forget whether it was insolence or disobedience or what]", and basically "I don't want to be Cerberus' prey myself so you're coming with me whether you like it or not". Reala seemed to be trying to save has badass face by brushing it off and saying "I'm not here to chitchat anyway >:|" My interpretation is that Reala was begrudgingly letting NiGHTS know that NiGHTS was in Deep Trouble, and was basically saying "I don't exactly want to catch you (even though you're annoying) but I'll do it so I don't get my rear whupped by Wizeman".
I don't see it as ~*beautiful unconditional brotherly love*~, but Reala does seem to have a little flicker of caring in him.
#32
Posted 31 December 2007 - 10:32 PM

Lets not forget that you actually have to fight him... ha ha that requires some harmful contact.
But all he does is throw big explody balls at you. He never throws a punch or anything. He never like, rams you in the face he just Touch Dashes explody balls at you. Which do hurt, it has to be said, but he's letting the explody balls do the work. He never touches you in those battles. In fact, when you try to get anywhere close to him he flies off to a different area.
#33
Posted 02 January 2008 - 04:28 PM

#34
Posted 02 January 2008 - 08:39 PM

#35
Posted 05 January 2008 - 07:24 PM

Did anyone else think that Reala sounded like Obi-wan Kenobi when he said "Yes Master!"? o.O O.oWell, NiGHTS is a traitor to Wizeman's cause, and despite caring about NiGHTS, Reala cares about his life more and is too afraid of Wizeman to betray him. Note in one cutscene, he tries to say something, but Wizeman goes something like "SILENCE!" and Reala immediately puts his head down like a puppy and says "Yes Master!" Real quick like.
#36
Posted 05 January 2008 - 07:50 PM

But all he does is throw big explody balls at you. He never throws a punch or anything. He never like, rams you in the face he just Touch Dashes explody balls at you. Which do hurt, it has to be said, but he's letting the explody balls do the work. He never touches you in those battles. In fact, when you try to get anywhere close to him he flies off to a different area.
Thats because paralooping Reala (Yes, it is possible) does nothing. NOTHING!
#37
Posted 05 January 2008 - 09:01 PM

I agree with the comment that he cares more about NiGHTS than he lets on. Like it's been said, if he really wanted to hurt NiGHTS, he could easily do so. Grab his arm and yank it out of its socket or something equally as grotesque and painful. Yet, he himself never lays a hand on NiGHTS. Even when you're battling him, all he does is throw big explody balls at you. He never actually throws a punch.
Good thought. NiGHTS and Reala were both First-level Nightmaren, so Reala could view NiGHTS as somewhat of a brother...
#38
Posted 05 January 2008 - 11:43 PM

But yeah you can tell Reala cares some about NiGHTS. If he didn't he would have crushed him, insted of capturing him. If you think about it, Reala might also have protected NiGHTS that way. Because Reala knew he was going after wizeman, and the chances were that NiGHTS was going to be killed.
So really you could look at it any way. It is kind of a Sonic and Shadow thing. (well they are friends now, but at first they weren't).
#39
Posted 05 January 2008 - 11:47 PM

It's just that Reala doesn't mined being used.
I read this and bad things flow through my brain.

#40
Posted 06 January 2008 - 01:18 AM

I read this and bad things flow through my brain.
*mindgutter* @_@;;;
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