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[KatKitoshi]

I'm fairly excited about this . The graphics do look a bit smoother, and I hope the fmv's get a bit of an upgrade =3.

(<.< ... >.>.... I'm also happy cause its for the ps2 *hides* I don't have a wii yet *weeps* ah well, gonna reserve journey of dreams anyways XD)

[Maki Izumii]

Hm. That looks really good, actually. Though it's a bit weird that they're releasing it for the ps2.

[DiGi Valentine]

Yeah, the thing does look a bit blocky but...hey..they've got a while to smooth things out a bit more. JoD went through the same thing, didn't it? We all complained that the graphics looked crap in the first few screenshots we saw. Then after a few months we got to see Alps Chase and most of our views on the graphics changed. I think Sega will smooth this remake out a little bit more before it's released.

Also, Tragick. I appreciate that you wanna show off your merchandise but could you make the image smaller? It's a bit too big for a signature image. Thanks.

[DMC_Dreamer]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I figured some of us would want more pics than just the 4 pics on the official site... From Famitsu, a whole load of screens...and apparently confirmation that the original Saturn version is included, for thos who don't mind the blockiness.

Screens:

Jackle?


Elliot attacked


Mode selection menu

[iLLViLLAiN]

Screens:

Jackle?


Mode selection menu

I thought the inside of Jackle's cape was black. It's okay though I'm not complaing.

The next picture confuses me. Why does it say brand new and segasaturn dream? Does this mean the original will be on the game and that the updated one will be something else to choose?

Updated

Nevermind that last part

サターン版が遊べる！



　サターン版のグラフィックを再現したモードでプレイすることもできる。懐かしい感覚でゲームを楽しむことができるのだ。このモードで遊んでから本編をプレイして、違いを楽しむのもアリ!?


Saturn version playable!



Saturn version of the graphic reproduction mode can also be played. Nostalgic sense of the game they can enjoy. In this mode playing in this document from playing on the difference between Ali and enjoy?

[viperxmns]

No!! Is the Saturn version not sacred? Leave it be! Or something..

Bad enough I'm gonna have to disrespect it with the PS2 version.

[iLLViLLAiN]

No!! Is the Saturn version not sacred? Leave it be! Or something..

Bad enough I'm gonna have to disrespect it with the PS2 version.

Yo it's two versions on that disc. The first original untouched game and the ported game. Read the post above yours. I got it badly translated.

[Hime Blue]

*drools at the Jackle screenshot*

Want...PS2...now. I changed my mind.

[Sa-chan]

I DO DECLARE, THIS HAS BEEN THE BEST BIRTHDAY EVER.

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THAT IS ALL.

[NNR07]

2 Versions 8DD!?

This just became twice as awesome as it already was. And it was already my most anticipated game for my life 8D!

[DMC_Dreamer]

I hoped that you guys would like it! The rest of the images are here...I don't know if that first link worked or not... http://www.famitsu.c...11999_1407.html

[Meggiemaccat]

..... Okay, that IS Jackle blinking. *takes a gigantic sigh of relief* Oh god, I never realized Jackle owned a guillotine, but I suppose I should've guessed from that one fanart of him and DB. ^^; *giggles at all the Jack-in-the-boxes* Is it just me, or does his room look rather plush? *has thought his room would be really comfy for a while, but wasn't sure if that was a correct assumption and hopes this theory isn't warping her perception of the room* Those blocks and things in the middle look like they'd be like sitting in beanbag chairs, and the floor looks like a carpet.

EDIT: And is it also just me, or was that neck-ruffle not originally part of Jackle's outfit???

Also, it's cool that you can choose between the new 3-D graphics and the 2-D graphics; this gives old-time players a chance to go even deeper into nostalgia than if they hadn't.

ANOTHER EDIT: Ah, nvm about the Jackle question... *just checked and found that she was wrong* XPPPP *will draw that into her in-progress Jackle art eventually*

[iLLViLLAiN]

Jackle's crib looks pimpin lol

[viperxmns]

Yo it's two versions on that disc. The first original untouched game and the ported game. Read the post above yours. I got it badly translated.

I know; it's as if owning the O.G. is now meaningless, other than the value or nostalgia or whatevr. Next I'm gonna hear that they're bundling a special Saturn-esque controller with the game

[^_^ Go Dreamer]

woOT!! More exciting stuffs!! I'm loving the screenshots!! ^_^ They do look more crisp and........ *squeeks* OwO JACKLE!!! *bows down to his revamped Awesomeness* ^w^

[NNR07]

I know; it's as if owning the O.G. is now meaningless, other than the value or nostalgia or whatevr. Next I'm gonna hear that they're bundling a special Saturn-esque controller with the game

Well, it might not yet.
They might exclude a few features, or it might run slower or faster.


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In all honesty I'm very surprised they can even GET the original Saturn game in there O_O. This is definitely a must-buy for anyone now. If you don't have a PS2, get a PS2 emulator! *SHOT*

[DiGi Valentine]

I really don't see this as a reason to complain. Everyone was yelling for a V.C release of the original, so why the change in tone? Instead of what would have been us downloading a Saturn port and getting the exact same thing we did 11 years ago, we're putting a bit more money behind it and getting the original PLUS a bundle of other cool stuff. It's bloody good news, in my opinion.

I got excited when i saw 'brand new dream' thinking it was gonna be new levels or something for Elliot and Claris...but reading it again, Brand New Dream is basically the saturn version with the lovely new graphics and 'Saturn Version' is the old skool graphics. But, hey, it's all good. Jackle looks very swanky. Glad to see that Maren again, even if he's gonna kick my ass all over that damn toy-box. XD

Seriously, people. We were SCREAMING for a V.C port. We're getting that and something much better...even if it's on a PS2.

I wonder what the '?????' is. o.o

Also, Elliot looks bloody awesome with the new shine.

And, after clicking the link, i guess that answers my questions about the FMV then. Meh, probably better they didn't update it, anyway. They could have possibly ruined it if they did.

All in all, i'm looking forward to this.

[NNR07]

I wonder what the '?????' is. o.o

Hmm... maybe it's the 'Presents' feature 8D!

[TRiPPY]

I'm thinking it's either going to be Christmas NiGHTS or the Nightopian Collection feature... or possibly the music box.

Or maybe a trailer for JoD? :/ nah it better be something cool.

[Drannore]

All of that is in English...that relieves a bit of the stress on me. I am now turning slowly to the side that says that this is a good thing...the original is bundled with the remake, and not Journey of Dreams? Good, but still not what I want. It takes a whole lot to get me to change opinions. I am very opinionated!

Everyone says that the Wii cannot emulate the Saturn, yet here we have this console that has only about one fourth its power and the game is coming onto it? Weird.

Well, this brings hope that Journey of Dreams will also get the original version, right? Please do it, Sega. If you don't, I am going to have to consider choosing a different second-favourite game company!

[Kraken]

I doubt it'd be a trailer...both are forecasted for February, right? I dont know why they'd put a trailer there.

A boss attack mode or something would be pretty cool, but that's probably not gonna happen. Either way, though, this is looking pretty awesome...hopefully the music is revamped slightly too.

[GoldDreams]

I'm going to keep my fingers crossed for a possible Wii version of this game. I think with how easily it seems PS2 games can be ported to the Wii. Sega should definitely look into porting it some how. It would be nice to see it released as Wii-Ware. Sega has yet to announce any content for this new feature launching next year. I don't see the point in buying a PS2 just for a single game I'd like to play. If that is the only means I'll stick to playing the Saturn version. Unless otherwise tempted by something more.

[The wise Kitsune]

OmgIcantbelivethattheywouldonlysendittojapan!Theyknowthatwewouldbesohappywiththatgame!Imaboycottseganow!!Omg!

Wow, that was hard. O_o I sent a letter to Sega of America about the Delay, and about it just going to japan. Hopefully, they reply.

[NNR07]

As for the NiD-Remake coming to Wii... highly doubt it. Once again, Nintendo is getting their treatment for JoD. And, if the PS2-Remake got in the V.C. Shop, it'd be just as expensive as the PS2 version. It wouldn't be released on JoD, because they'd lose money on the PS2-Remake Sales (They'd rather have 100,000 people spend $80 for both than have 50,000 spend only $40 for JoD. ). It'd also probably cost more for them to release, say, 1 million copies on both systems than have just 1 million for PS2. I honestly wouldn't know though... I know about business and sales, not production and hardware.

As for the Saturn version on the PS2... I'm guessing they recreated it, or found a way to port it. Keep in mind, this might have been in production for a good few years... so they might have taken some time to crack it and put it in. Once again, don't know >>. However, that would make sense for why it's NOT coming to Wii; they don't have a way to port it as of yet. Just PS2. Again, I don't know.

[DMC_Dreamer]

Even if it does seem to be PS2 for now, it opens the door to future releases based upon sales/popularity on to the other systems downloadable services (i.e. Xbox Live Arcade, and/or WiiWare/Virtual Console service). My reason for believeing that? Rez and Ikaruga (sp?) coming to XBLA. Both games were ported from the Dreamcast, but then ported onto the PS2 and Gamecube respectively... yet, next Feburary, they will be available, with achievements and enhancements, on Japan's download Arcade selection. Exit, a game that was first released on the PSP, is available to download on XBLA, as well as a soon-to-be released DS version...so ports from the PS2.PSP aren't that uncommon.

How this relates to NiGHTS? Simple, from what I hear on developer's cost to make an XNA or Virtual Console/WiiWare title, is about 1/4 of what it cost of a regular full PS2/Wii type game (based upon new titles, and not rereleased emulated titles, like Pac-man, or Did-Dug, etc.). So, in the interest of money (and Sega is as guilty of this as any other dev out there), if the sales on the PS2 are good, don't be surprised if you see NiGHTS available on other systems.

I'll try and find an exact cost on average for devolpers, just so people know, but, like I said, this is still dependent on the popularity and/or sales of both the PS2 remake, and NiGHTS JoD.

[NNR07]

Even if it does seem to be PS2 for now, it opens the door to future releases based upon sales/popularity on to the other systems downloadable services (i.e. Xbox Live Arcade, and/or WiiWare/Virtual Console service).

Hmm.... that is a good point.

Either way, though, I'm still thinking it's going to be PS2-Only... for the time being.

[Xenon]

I can only hope that Sony doesn't slap a 50 USD price tag on it when it's released. It wouldn't make sense to do that for a remake of an older title. Though as Sony is full of greedy jerks, it wouldn't surprise me any... T-T

I'm Hoping for a more reasonable price, something closer to 30 USD. I think that would be a more sensible price range for a remake such as this. Though I guess we'll just have to see...

[NNR07]

I can only hope that Sony doesn't slap a 50 USD price tag on it when it's released. It wouldn't make sense to do that for a remake of an older title. Though as Sony is full of greedy jerks, it wouldn't surprise me any... T-T

As a consumer, I'm hoping that they make it only $30 or $25 (and they might, it being after Holiday Season), but... since it's a bundle of NiGHTS goodies in one disc (Saturn, PS2 Remake, Gallery, the ???, Movie Viewer, Presents... ), I'm not sure D8.

[Drannore]

I think that they want to put it on Wii, and will do so later in 2007. If they do this, then I will get the game. I refuse to buy a PS2 for one game.

I really don't think that Sega is trying to placate every console manufacturer with their own NiGHTS "treatment." It does not make any sense for them to do that. If they want to get more people to buy NiGHTS, then they put both the sequel and the remake on both consoles. Since they would have to downgrade Journey of Dreams to get it running on PS2, Sony is never getting that game. As for the remake, it would make far more sense to spread its release net as widely as possible. And more and more people are buying Wii, and the fact that it is so easy to port games from PS2 to Wii gives Sega no excuse not to release it on Wii.

Come on, Sega, announce it. Your position as my second-favourite game company is starting to get into serious doubt here.

[NNR07]

I really don't think that Sega is trying to placate every console manufacturer with their own NiGHTS "treatment."

So far, it looks like it. Wii is getting JoD. PS2 is getting PS2 Remake. ONLY 360 and PS3 is getting 'Twilight Adventure'. I heard there MIGHT be the possibility for PSP/DS spin-offs. Sounds like they're giving each console a bit of the franchise, and letting it get known from there.

As for putting it on the Wii... I honestly don't know why they'd put it on the Wii, unless they put JoD on the PS2. More people have PS2s, therefore, more people would buy JoD. And, fyi, it is possible to put JoD on the PS2. They'd just have to make it run on the PS2 by cutting down on the polygons and etc. Games have done that before. Burnout Revenge, for instance, had a PS2, Xbox, and 360 game. If you ask me, I just think anti-Sony people are hurt and down because the NiGHTS remake is coming to PS2 and only PS2. That's just my opinion though.

@_@. Let's just talk about the PS2 Remake instead of how awesome it would've been on the Wii, or how much one hates the PS2.

[Drannore]

Alright, OK. I think that the remake is actually a (choke) good thing. I can always play JoD and then I will never complain about it again.

Besides, the more exposure the "franchise" gets, the more people who will buy the games. All of my whining will be for naught, probably, as I will break down and buy a PS2 anyway.

And I never heard of a game coming for 360 or PS3. Can anyone give me some info on that?

[NNR07]

And I never heard of a game coming for 360 or PS3. Can anyone give me some info on that?

Sure. It's the only reason why I want a PS3 >:. In all honesty, the PSP is the last console-device (it's technically a handheld >: ) I really wanted from Sony... but one of my favorite franchises is on there so 8D;; .

From TRiPPY and DiGi.:

Plans for Xbox 360 and PS3 game in 2008. Not said to be a port, which has been apparently ruled out now, but a new game amusingly titled 'NiGHTS -Twilight Adventure'. (Source from January 2007)

Now, that COULD have been scrapped, or changed to the PS2 Remake... we don't know D8.

[iLLViLLAiN]

From TRiPPY and DiGi.:

Plans for Xbox 360 and PS3 game in 2008. Not said to be a port, which has been apparently ruled out now, but a new game amusingly titled 'NiGHTS -Twilight Adventure'. (Source from January 2007)

Now, that COULD have been scrapped, or changed to the PS2 Remake... we don't know D8.

I want to know what the source was.

[NNR07]

I want to know what the source was.

Me toos ;_;.

I'm guessing someone in SEGA... someone working on the inside << >>. Maybe a PR Official O_O? Doubt it, but >>...

[NNR07]

I have been thinking about getting a 360 though and if there's a NiGHTS game coming to it I'll defo have to look into it.

Hmm... I was thinking about it too, even though Microsoft is not my favorite Gaming company.

[YamiLover13]

I am looking forward to this, but all I really want to know is if its coming to America or not. I will keep my hopes up but I am not sure.

I know its all in English, but understand thats how the Japanese NiD games are too. Well...at least Christmas NiGHTS is. I have the Japanese Christmas NiGHTS and the only Japanese lettering I remember is from the screen when you enter Time Attack or Link Attack mode. Everything else was in English. Even the menu and Presents titles. Correct me if I am wrong though.

[iLLViLLAiN]

I am looking forward to this, but all I really want to know is if its coming to America or not. I will keep my hopes up but I am not sure.

I know its all in English, but understand thats how the Japanese NiD games are too. Well...at least Christmas NiGHTS is. I have the Japanese Christmas NiGHTS and the only Japanese lettering I remember is from the screen when you enter Time Attack or Link Attack mode. Everything else was in English. Even the menu and Presents titles. Correct me if I am wrong though.

Hmm. That scratches off the high beliefs I had of it coming to other parts of the world to nothing more than a small prediction

It seems pretty unnecessary to put english on a disc only meant for those in Japan. It would be much faster to just put the nations language and call it a day. I don't understand how devs operate anymore. Then again I never knew how in the first place.

[YamiLover13]

Hmm. That scratches off the high beliefs I had of it coming to other parts of the world to nothing more than a small prediction

It seems pretty unnecessary to put English on a disc only meant for those in Japan. It would be much faster to just put the nations language and call it a day. I don't understand how devs operate anymore. Then again I never knew how in the first place.

Sorry to put a damper on your day. Don't lose too much hope though. The methods may have changed since then. I have never played another Japanese version of a game except Christmas NiGHTS, so I have no idea if they would be changing this approach. It does seem odd to have so much English but the general Japanese public do know a 'little' bit of English. But I too think making all the menus in English is a bit much even if they are only a few words. This is showing up on the Japanese site though so I would assume this is what the Japanese version of the game will look like. Or maybe they are making it look exactly the same for a world wide release. I have NO idea! Sega can be pretty strange sometimes.