Rumor: NiGHTS 3

Major Elliam: NiGHTS? answer me! NiGHTS? NiGHTS!? NiiiiiiiiiiiiiiGHTS!!!

well if it comes to this we can expect NiGHTS ta get the traditional MGS welcome...
a strip search
naked Nightmare anyone?

I still wanna see a game that takes place before NiGHTS was, more or less, a "good guy". and now for a few Metal Gear NiGHTS moments...

NiGHTS: Weapons and Equipment O.S.P?
Major Elliam: Nope! Agent Arch just confirmed you won't be getting any guns on the NiGHTS 3 rumor board.
NiGHTS: least I got my smokes...
Dr. Clair: How did you manage that?
NiGHTS: my hat

NiGHTS: cripe! being nude apparently affects my ability to break ppl's necks!

Solid Snake!NiGHTS. I can't decide if it's the weirdest or funniest thing yet.

I had an idea like as time was running out, or like, for a final mission or whatever you see Nightmare taking over, like, the encroaching change in scenery would be so cool..

Hmm.. would this work?-

New mission: At the start of a stage, each Minion that has invaded Nightopia carries a shard of stolen Ideya. Like before, each Mare is designated to one type of Ideya. Collect the shards by beating up Minions; the more shards you collect within the Mare time limit, the stronger the Ideya will get. You are then ranked based on the strength of the Ideya at the end of the Mare. In addition, collecting Chips and getting Links contributes to something called "Nightopian influence', which relates to the A-Life. Basically it's like achieving a good score through the chip and link system (maybe links still buy more time) you 'purify' the Dream, so in addition to your Ideya score you also get a Nightopia score like before. So this would require a lot more Minions per level, and in this method, separating from NiGHTS might have to happen differently.. umm.. like, a 'Duality' bar? Each time you get hit your duality strength weakens..I'm not sure about this..

I hope this doesn't sound too confusing..

if you do we can go together. SA2 is THE BEST SONIC GAME EVER!!!!! and i would love to play as Reala in a villian story maybe 'the great mother' can be the middle villain corrupting both nightmare and dreams. The devourer of all subconscious!!!.

Sounds great! 'The great mother idea is a great idea, but I doubt it will ever be a game.

I had an idea like as time was running out, or like, for a final mission or whatever you see Nightmare taking over, like, the encroaching change in scenery would be so cool..

Hmm.. would this work?-

New mission: At the start of a stage, each Minion that has invaded Nightopia carries a shard of stolen Ideya. Like before, each Mare is designated to one type of Ideya. Collect the shards by beating up Minions; the more shards you collect within the Mare time limit, the stronger the Ideya will get. You are then ranked based on the strength of the Ideya at the end of the Mare. In addition, collecting Chips and getting Links contributes to something called "Nightopian influence', which relates to the A-Life. Basically it's like achieving a good score through the chip and link system (maybe links still buy more time) you 'purify' the Dream, so in addition to your Ideya score you also get a Nightopia score like before. So this would require a lot more Minions per level, and in this method, separating from NiGHTS might have to happen differently.. umm.. like, a 'Duality' bar? Each time you get hit your duality strength weakens..I'm not sure about this..

I hope this doesn't sound too confusing..

OMG!!!!!!!! That is the best idea i have ever heard!!!!!!!!!!! I personally hate being hit by enemies so this, " Duality" bar sounds good to me!!!!!!!

Major Elliam: NiGHTS? answer me! NiGHTS? NiGHTS!? NiiiiiiiiiiiiiiGHTS!!!

well if it comes to this we can expect NiGHTS ta get the traditional MGS welcome...
a strip search
naked Nightmare anyone?

I still wanna see a game that takes place before NiGHTS was, more or less, a "good guy". and now for a few Metal Gear NiGHTS moments...

NiGHTS: Weapons and Equipment O.S.P?
Major Elliam: Nope! Agent Arch just confirmed you won't be getting any guns on the NiGHTS 3 rumor board.
NiGHTS: least I got my smokes...
Dr. Clair: How did you manage that?
NiGHTS: my hat

NiGHTS: cripe! being nude apparently affects my ability to break ppl's necks!

Holy, @$$#&%**!!!!! You are crazy!!!!! No offence, by the way.

Geez... this dicussion IS going in more directions thana DDR pad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Major Elliam: NiGHTS? answer me! NiGHTS? NiGHTS!? NiiiiiiiiiiiiiiGHTS!!!

well if it comes to this we can expect NiGHTS ta get the traditional MGS welcome...
a strip search
naked Nightmare anyone?

I still wanna see a game that takes place before NiGHTS was, more or less, a "good guy". and now for a few Metal Gear NiGHTS moments...

NiGHTS: Weapons and Equipment O.S.P?
Major Elliam: Nope! Agent Arch just confirmed you won't be getting any guns on the NiGHTS 3 rumor board.
NiGHTS: least I got my smokes...
Dr. Clair: How did you manage that?
NiGHTS: my hat

NiGHTS: cripe! being nude apparently affects my ability to break ppl's necks!

Arch only confirmed REALA won't have a gun. NiGHTS is still far game to have one

Okay you guys. Another story theory:

*Also takes place in a completely different reality.


Okay so basically the two friends, NiGHTS and Reala are hurriedly flying through some random city in Nightmare. Why? Because Professor Owl has just created a time machine. NiGHTS and Reala make their way to the lab where they find the Professor and his granddaughter, Octopawsy, tied up. There are pians everywhere. Oddly enough a King Pian is there as well but he is wearing very peculiar headgear. The Professor and his granddaughter tell both NiGHTS and Reala to get out of there. However their escape becomes impossible as the King Pian orders one of the pians to start the time machine thus sending all but the Professor and his granddaughter back in time. Now as NiGHTS you must capture all of the Pians who are changing the history of Nightmare to make it a land of the pians.

XD lol moving this thread to general NiGHTS chat because it's gone crazy!

what about a good/evil plot? NiGHTS isn't necessarily "good" just peeved at wiseman. So imaging you play through and depending on how you interact with the A life system the place will turn slowly into either a dream or a nightmare? (this may sound simaler to viperxmns's idea but instead of trying to prevent it you can cause it?)

Okay you guys. Another story theory:

*Also takes place in a completely different reality.


Okay so basically the two friends, NiGHTS and Reala are hurriedly flying through some random city in Nightmare. Why? Because Professor Owl has just created a time machine. NiGHTS and Reala make their way to the lab where they find the Professor and his granddaughter, Octopawsy, tied up. There are pians everywhere. Oddly enough a King Pian is there as well but he is wearing very peculiar headgear. The Professor and his granddaughter tell both NiGHTS and Reala to get out of there. However their escape becomes impossible as the King Pian orders one of the pians to start the time machine thus sending all but the Professor and his granddaughter back in time. Now as NiGHTS you must capture all of the Pians who are changing the history of Nightmare to make it a land of the pians.

ALBINO WISEMAN!... gonna need a bigger net...

I will probably get shot, stabbed, or have a brick thrown at my head for saying this, but I think it would be totally awesome if they made NiGHTS 3 an RPG! And I reckon it would be totally awesome if you could play as Reala. Two different stories in the same world. Minted.

To be honest, an RPG would take the point out of NiGHTS, because they typically have a considerable disconnect between the player and character, but NiGHTS is about flying around. So, I know that the Gamer's Day is this month, does anyone know the date?

I can't seem to find out just WHEN the SGD is. I'm thinking it's probably two weeks from today though, considering their major release (Iron Man) came out today and needs time to sell before big announcements come along. Looks like it's not going to do too well either (1. Movie-game, and 2. GTA IV week).

My fingers are crossed. If NiGHTS 3 happens, I'll be thrilled. If it doesn't, well that's just more motivation for me to crash-course refresh myself in the programming world and get to work. Dreams are entertaining. Making them a reality is fulfilling.

I had an idea like as time was running out, or like, for a final mission or whatever you see Nightmare taking over, like, the encroaching change in scenery would be so cool..

Hmm.. would this work?-

New mission: At the start of a stage, each Minion that has invaded Nightopia carries a shard of stolen Ideya. Like before, each Mare is designated to one type of Ideya. Collect the shards by beating up Minions; the more shards you collect within the Mare time limit, the stronger the Ideya will get. You are then ranked based on the strength of the Ideya at the end of the Mare. In addition, collecting Chips and getting Links contributes to something called "Nightopian influence', which relates to the A-Life. Basically it's like achieving a good score through the chip and link system (maybe links still buy more time) you 'purify' the Dream, so in addition to your Ideya score you also get a Nightopia score like before. So this would require a lot more Minions per level, and in this method, separating from NiGHTS might have to happen differently.. umm.. like, a 'Duality' bar? Each time you get hit your duality strength weakens..I'm not sure about this..

I hope this doesn't sound too confusing..

I like that idea, I also would like to see more missions but not a lot of them like the ones when Helen and Will have to go through mazes or such on their own but missions to get the Ideya shards and such. Maybe there could be some sort of cut scene with the Ideya shards forming back into the Ideya before entering the Visitors/Dreamers after the final Boss battle of the "level". That would be so cool!

*yays to the likes of me idear*

Maybe in this fashion, there might be variant missions that mix the formula; Each dream has a Red mission (maybe this is the regular one), Yellow mission (involves the A life somehow), Blue mission(use your wits for these), Green mssion (some sort of leveling up happens), and White mission (Nightmaren time attack).

Hmm..

I will probably get shot, stabbed, or have a brick thrown at my head for saying this, but I think it would be totally awesome if they made NiGHTS 3 an RPG! And I reckon it would be totally awesome if you could play as Reala. Two different stories in the same world. Minted.

I wouldn't just dis this idea...after all there have been games with two different stories in Sonic the Hedgehog which worked well. I also think it might be neat to play as Reala besides in the tennis and two player JoD games. Maybe the stories could be connected and then NiGHTS and Reala will have to work together to defeat a common enemy who is not Wizeman.

I'm split right now; I explained how I (and probably my Girlfriend) feel on JoD at the moment to my girlfriend, Kyrawolf, on the phone last night 8D.:

Think of your favorite flavor of cake; so yummy and delicious. You and it are in the middle of the field; however, there's a massive hill in-between you two. You need to climb the hill in-order to get to the cake, and, might I add, this is a very, very steep, hard-to-climb hill.

I just walk around it, though |B.

Translation?

JoD can be a very good game, but there's just a lot about it that takes a bit of time to get around to and use to. All of us will get use to it, but it will take a long time. Then we can have our cake and eat it too 8D.

How I feel on a 3rd NiGHTS?

There's a lot that SEGA can do right that they messed with JoD. I do have some faith that things will go the right way, but, if a 3rd game is made and fucked up, I'm staying true to the originals.

Maybe SEGA is working on a device you place in your ear. Then go to sleep and it makes you dream about NiGHTS and that's the game lol

All right ladies and gentlemen, according to Seganerds, Sega Gamer's Day is, well.........today.

Within the next 24 hours we'll know if a third NiGHTS is coming sometime in 2008. I'm not holding my breath, but it'd still be awesome nonetheless...

-snip-

Forget what i said. It seems Sega did acknowledge Seganerds and they have invited them to the event afterall. Good job, Sega. I is happy now

Yeah the whole SEGAnerds thing bites. How the hell did IGN and other journalism sites start out if the companies ignored them too e_e Every site starts from something including the cashcows. Stupid logic driving journalists and good press away.


If anyone hears anything from anywhere, give us a bell.


edit- Really? GOOD. Seganerds do a good job and i visit their site all the time for news. Glad to hear that was sorted.

Update on this Gamers Day thing.

Seganerds are updating their blog-posts as the day goes on with more info on what they saw at the Gamers Day. As you know someone started a rumour saying that Skies of Arcadia and a New NiGHTS game was to appear at the Sega Gamers Day event. Well, i've been waiting all day to see if Seganerds would have said anything on it and all they did say that Skies of Arcadia was a no-show meaning that NiGHTS is most probably not there either.
Tracking the net to see what the Gamers Day line-up was, i ended up on a bunch of other forums and they had lists of the line-up. Needless to say but SoA and NiGHTS was not on there so this rumour turned out to be nothing important at all. In the long run, maybe that might be for the best.

However, i still wonder what Julissa meant when she told us to 'stay tuned' in that MySpace message to me.
Anyways, if something suddenly turns up then i'll post it here but don't hold your breath.

Thanks for the news DiGi. This may be good actually.

Yeah, I was kinda sad at the end of the day, but to be honest I wasn't expecting it. From a development perspective I can understand why they were shallow on new titles; they're probably trying to narrow the scope and put the most effort into their current projects like Sonic Unleashed and Valkyria Chronicles.

Besides, if a NiGHTS 3 were to be made I'd much rather see it made by either Yuji Naka's team or a group of us here on the forums anyway. That way it'd be done right

It makes me a tad sad that it was all just a rumor. On the other hand I am happy that even if they WERE making a NiGHTS 3, they wouldn't start so soon. I still hope that there will be a NiGHTS 3 though sometime in the near future (Near meaning not a decade) I see NiGHTS like Final Fantasy: I didn't like ff12 but I don't think they should just give up because they just need to work hard to fix any mistakes. Now it just makes me sit here eating pencils asking meself "What did NiGHTS voice actor lady mean!?! MUST DEMAND INFO FROM MY Walkee talkee!"
The walkee talkee's only good for listening to phone calls though.

I'm pretty sure that the chances of Yuji Naka ever doing another NiGHTS game is close to zero. Firstly, he would have to be part of Sega again for that to ever take place. On top of that he would need to get over his fear of ruining NiGHTS if a sequel were to be made (though now a sequel has been made he has not got a leg to stand on there).

As for "NiGHTS 3". I still refuse to believe that Sega have completely gotten rid of everything they were doing for the PS3/360 games that we heard about back in 2006. It's evident that they were interested in the other consoles at the time and i'm pretty sure they still are now.

Actually, something interesting came to TRiPPY's mind yesterday when we were reading up on the Sonic Unleashed news. This "hedgehog engine" that they're building the game around could, in a sense, be incorporated into a NiGHTS game, couldn't it? Think about it. It goes from being 'on rails' to full on 3D. If they master this engine then it could work extremely well for a NiGHTS game. You could play a NiGHTS game on rails and then switch the camera to see everything else from a different perspective. One of the things that they asked the PR's at the Sega gamers day was if this 'hedgehog engine' would be used for any other games and the PR announced that Sonic won't be the only game that will be using this engine. Let me find a qoute on that, hold on .... *looks*... right. Here, from Seganerds' coverage of the event - full article here.

Direct your attention to this part here where it talks about the engine -

Apparently, Sonic Team has been working on it since 2005, and the Sega reps said the engine is going to be used on more than just Sonic games, but it is made to run Sonic games.

Anyway, it's just something TRiPPY thought up and it's stuck with me ever since. Just speculating, that's all.

Firstly, he would have to be part of Sega again for that to ever take place.

Not necessarily. SEGA could always outsource the development of the game to Prope if they wanted to go down that route.

I suppose that is an option though i honestly can't ever see that happening.

I tend to agree with you there, given that Sega seem to prefer to keep the development of their first-part properties in-house. It's always a possibility, though; it's not abnormal for a company to get another development studio to work on a game for them (see: Sega's Amusement Vision making F-Zero GX for Nintendo or more recently and, perhaps more relevantly, Masahiro Sakurai's Sora Ltd. making Smash Bros. Brawl).

True indeed, it's not abnormal for a company to do something along those lines and Sega could do that and hand it over for Prope to make but Yuji left Sega for numerous reasons, one of which being he did not want anything to do with the company anymore. Sega giving Prope NiGHTS for a project seems highly unlikely in that respect if Yuji left the company to start his own away from anything Sega related.

But on a level, does anybody even know what Prope are doing thesedays? Not a lot, judging by the looks of it.

Yeah, now that I think about it, I haven't heard anything about Prope...have they done anything since their foundation?

Don't lose hope everyone! I personally believe that a NiGHTS 3 will happen very soon....or at least before 11 years are up again.

Don't lose hope everyone! I personally believe that a NiGHTS 3 will happen very soon....or at least before 11 years are up again.

I hope it's in another 11 years

Yeah, now that I think about it, I haven't heard anything about Prope...have they done anything since their foundation?

I thought PROPE was just there to help upcoming developers. I could be wrong.

Prope? PROPE? What's that?! I hear their name a lot, but why should I buy they're games?



</sarcasm>

My Nintendo nerdiness is reacting again...

Masahiro Sakurai's Sora Ltd. making Smash Bros. Brawl

What actually happened, according to the "Iwata Asks" segments with Sakurai, Sora Ltd. oversaw the development by Game Arts, which was composed of development staff that were hired just to make Brawl. HAL Labs and Nintendo supervised the development, with Hideo Kojima assisting in designing Snake's level for the game. I think one of Sonic Team Japan's staff oversaw Sonic's stage as well, but the infomation on that is slim.

What I really want is NiD on the Wii VC (once Nintendo fixes it's storage issues), and a Saturn styled classic controller. Come on Sega, I want it, now. >=(

Prope? PROPE? What's that?! I hear their name a lot, but why should I buy they're games?

People, Sonic's real father is Naota Ohshima. Yuji Naka is more like the drunk uncle that beat him, and Takashi Iizuka is the unsupportive cousin that teases and mocks him.

I usually compare it to the Disney/Iwerks relation (no offense to Naka though, since Disney was a douche, pardone my fwench), Naoto Oshima designed Sonic and NiGHTS, Naka was lead programmer and stuff.

People, Sonic's real father is Naota Ohshima...

No matter how many gamers you ask there will only be a few who actually know this. Can the same be said for NiGHTS?

People, Sonic's real father is Naota Ohshima. Yuji Naka is more like the drunk uncle that beat him, and Takashi Iizuka is the unsupportive cousin that teases and mocks him.

I lol'd.

People, Sonic's real father is Naota Ohshima. Yuji Naka is more like the drunk uncle that beat him, and Takashi Iizuka is the unsupportive cousin that teases and mocks him.

You hit the nail spot on. So THAT's what his name was I keep forgetting I jus wonder what kinda mess we'd end up with if PROPE and Sega worked together on a project?

You hit the nail spot on. So THAT's what his name was I keep forgetting I jus wonder what kinda mess we'd end up with if PROPE and Sega worked together on a project?

But

But

But

But

YUJI NAKA IS ON PROBE

... Yeah XD. I don't know how much faith I have in either companies anymore.

I haven't lost my faith in Prope. Although they haven't officially announced anything yet, they are currently working on a Wii game that will appeal to both adults and kids. Sega on the other hand, I'm waiting to see how Sonic Unleashed turns out. That game might actually be pretty good. We'll just have to wait and see.