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Nov 13 2009, 07:58 PM
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PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME TO READ THIS. IT IS IMPORTANT.I want people to understand one thing when coming in to this topic. What i am trying to do is help NiGHTS and i need you all to trust me. Please, just trust me on this and i need you to join with me on this one. I tell you right now, i would not be wasting everybodies time with this if i did not feel it was needed. You have my word, this will not be a wasted opportunity. So, with this out of the way, let's get on with it. NiGHTS' activity within SEGA concerns me and it stems loosely from Sonic & SEGA AllStars Racing. My outlook on NiGHTS is that i BELIEVE he is not in the game. Why should this matter? - Because the inclusion of NiGHTS is secondary to Sonic. He is a secondary mascot behind Sonic the Hedgehog and with all the current evidence shown to me i don't believe NiGHTS is in AllStars Racing. I don't think our fanbase should be treated in such a way as to have our favourite character not make the final line-up for whatever reason. We have not built this community up all these years only to have NiGHTS disregarded. But DiGi, you're just over reacting. NiGHTS is expected - No, we have become too comfortable with NiGHTS just being there and it could potentialy cost us this time. So, if we've missed our chance, what's the point? - Downloadable Content. DLC. I do believe that if we go to SEGA with a second wave of emails (note, i said SEGA and not Sumo Digital. Remember, SEGA are the bosses here) then not only do we continue to show support for NiGHTS but in the case that he is NOT in the final game of ASR we still are showing support to have him as DLC. How do you know DLC is certain for this game? - Greg Johnson, ToeJam & Earl creator has officially stated online that he has been talking with SEGA about getting ToeJam & Earl in as DLC, so DLC for this game is being discussed NOW! If NiGHTS is not in the main game then NOW is our only chance to show support for NiGHTS to have DLC. We can NOT do this at any other time. But what about our previous emails that we sent to Sumo? - Oh, i believe it done some good. I believe we were taken notice of. The only problem there is we were asking for NiGHTS to be included in the main game. With the current evidence making me believe NiGHTS is not in the main game our only chance now IS to ask for NiGHTS to be DLC. And we must act quickly because everything has deadlines, including this DLC talk. It's a racing game. So what? - This could spiral from 'just a racing game' to no longer seeing him at all. If i am correct and NiGHTS is not in the main game then who knows why he was left out and further more this could lead to NiGHTS becoming inactive like so many other SEGA ip's out there. So, that's the reasoning behind it all. I would not be sitting here wasting all your time if i didn't feel this was a matter of urgency. I am not a man to act upon weak theories unless i have some form of proof and right now DLC has been mentioned, NiGHTS is no where to be seen, if DLC is being planned then this would be our only chance to make SEGA take notice and get NiGHTS in the game if he's not already in there. And if NiGHTS is already in the game then all you've done is shown support for the character regardless. Will you get in to trouble? No. Companies get petitions all the time and if anybody gets into trouble chances are it will be me. SEGA recently got hammered for the ToeJam & Earl thing. We have every single right to stand our ground for NiGHTS. And once again, i really want you to understand that i would not be asking you all of this unless i felt it necessary. And i know this is necessary right now. So, this is what we are going to do - Second Wave of emails showing support for NiGHTSYou copy this piece of text - "Hi. I'm from the NiGHTS fanbase. We still have not seen anything of NiGHTS yet in Sonic & SEGA AllStars Racing. I would love to see NiGHTS in this game. If he is not in the main game then can you please make him a DLC character? Greg Johnson, creator of ToeJam & Earl, has recently stated that DLC might be planned for AllStars Racing so if NiGHTS is not in the game can you please make NiGHTS a DLC character. We would support it by buying NiGHTS DLC for this game. Please let NiGHTS take part in AllStars Racing. Don't Forget NiGHTS yours sincerely - (your name)" --- You can edit it around, make it sound more personal but it needs to keep this message intact. You need to tell SEGA if NiGHTS is missing from the game then you want DLC of him. Saying you'll purchase DLC will help further push the idea forward because at the end of the day they need to know if it will be worth making NiGHTS DLC in the first place. You DO NOT send this email to Sumo Digital. Instead, you send it directly to Sonic Team & SEGA. Here's the email addresses to send to - Here are some other email addresses that should be worth a shot -danielL@soe.sega.co.uk segapr@sega.com sega@accesspr.com sega.games@sau.sega.com SEGA of Japan here is an important one--https://sega.jp/contact/soft/input.shtmlThe SEGA Japan address is a help desk and therefore all in Japanese. You'll have to translate it to fill out the forms and that might be a long process, but if anybody else is willing to go to this length then please link back to this website and state clearly in your message who you want this email to be directed to. I reccomend you mention Takashi Iizuka as the person you want this message to go to.[/b] Further more, if anybody figures out how to send emails through that Japanese help desk then please provide us with details on how you filled out the form so we can follow your example and also use that service. Sonic Team -mail@sonicteam.com -(NOTE: this address seems to be bouncing everyones emails- if anyone knows a public general email address for SonicTeam (not personal emails) please email or PM me the address so I can remove this one. Let's concentrate on the PR's just now: This is not a spam mission, you are to not spam them with the same email a hundred times. If you do that then i won't be held responsible for your actions. Just one email from you to as many of those addresses as you can will be enough. And please, get anybody you know who cares for NiGHTS to take part in this. Make a noise elsewhere online too, get people to see it.One last point of action would be to join up the official SEGA forum and talk about NiGHTS in there, in the AllStars Racing Forum here --> http://forums.sega.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263It does get checked by SEGA and if they see enough noise going on in there then it always raises an eyebrow. I will round things off here and finish up by saying one last time that i want you all to trust me with this. Not to trust me in the outcome of NiGHTS, that's up to SEGA, but trust me in that i would not waste your time fighting for something if it didn't matter. Please show your support. ~Don't Forget NiGHTS~ --------------------------------- Also feel free to use these images as forum signatures elsewhere online to raise awareness. (IMG: http://www.nightsintodreams.com/savenights.png) (IMG: http://www.nightsintodreams.com/savenightssmall.png) link back to this website or topic if you can.
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Nov 13 2009, 08:21 PM
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I'm with you all the way here man. It's ridiculous how much the NiGHTS fans get brushed aside with SEGA. It's a really daft way things have turned out. Back when we didn't have a voice and connections and weren't known to SEGA, you were getting NiGHTS cameos out the wazoo. You couldn't look ten feet in a Sonic Team game without him turning up somewhere. The last time we seen him ? Superstars Tennis. And that was a game based around cameos.
So yeah, there's something going on at SEGA, after JoD, SEGA seem to think that no one cares about one of thier most loved franchises. We need to sort that out. We need to make ourselves heard.
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Nov 13 2009, 08:33 PM
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*goes to do what a TRiPPY does best*
Guys spread this as far as you can.
very very FAR.
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Nov 13 2009, 08:35 PM
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I agree with Jof. Why now are they so scarce on the cameos? It's a great way of encouraging people to check out the original game from which the cameo comes, gets some interest going.. *pushpush, shoveshove*
Anyhow. Email sent.
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Nov 13 2009, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE more than partially THEIR OWN FAULT Quoted for great justice.
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Nov 13 2009, 08:56 PM
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Email sent to Sonic Team.
What me wrote:
"Hello. I am a dedicated NiGHTS fan, one of over a thousand who would very much like to see NiGHTS as a playable character in the upcoming game "Sonic & SEGA All Stars Racing". At this time SEGa has still not revealed him to be in the game, so we are all becoming a bit concerned. If he is not to be included in the main game I, no we, would definitely purchase him as a downloadable character, as well as Reala, and even Jackle would be a great addition all NiGHTS fans would love to see. We still love NiGHTS very much, and would also very much love for Sonic Team to continue to produce NiGHTS games in the future.
Thank you so much for your time, and producing some of my favorite video games of all time."
Whoops.. made a little typo there.. eh. whatever.
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Nov 13 2009, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (viperxmns @ Nov 13 2009, 03:39 PM)  which is more than partially THEIR OWN FAULT. And in that vein of thought, anyone else up for doing another email campaign to prevent this from happening to any other title that Sega produces, even if said blunder has rendered NiGHTS beyond salvaging? Although I certainly hope the parties responsible learned from their mistake, the evidence pointing towards NiGHTS not being a part of this game indicates otherwise. EDIT: Not to say I think NiGHTS is beyond saving (I certainly hope they try again!), but this blow is pretty serious.
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Nov 13 2009, 09:05 PM
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Overlord Bunny Man

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QUOTE (Meggiemaccat @ Nov 13 2009, 08:51 PM)  Quick question, though; should we use our true names or merely our forum name/alias? Either, it's entirely up to you. As for everybody else, i want to thank you for stepping in. I encourage as many people as possible to do this. I also want to say that we may not be given the same kindness that Sumo gave us by contacting us back. Who knows what will happen now. I have not eaten today, i've been trying to prepare for this. I too have sent my emails out and hoping that they hit a target. Now i have to get offline but i hope people still jump onboard this campaign. I trust you all will do the right thing. I'll check back in tomorrow morning to see how things are going. Thank you. All of you.
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Nov 13 2009, 09:18 PM
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Personalized my email a bit. Yay for being an English major!
Hi. I'm Kamui, from the NiGHTS fanbase.
I'm writing today because we still have not seen anything of NiGHTS yet in Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing. I would love to see NiGHTS in this game. He and Sonic are the main reasons I have very high interest in this game. I'm not one of those Sonic/SEGA fans who feels the need to complain about EVERYTHING that comes from the company. I honestly love the new games and I find no need to complain. Sadly, NiGHTS is something I feel the need to raise my voice about once in a while.And his disappearance from All-Stars Racing compels me to do so. If he is not in the main game then can you please make him a DLC character?
Greg Johnson, creator of ToeJam & Earl, has recently stated that DLC might be planned for All-Stars Racing so if NiGHTS is not in the game, maybe you can make NiGHTS a DLC character. We would all support it by buying NiGHTS DLC for this game.
Please let NiGHTS take part in All-Stars Racing. I feel he is as popular of a mascot as Sonic is.
So please, don't forget NiGHTS.
Yours sincerely - Kellie Davidson
Just yesterday, I was talking to my English class about my love for SEGA, Sonic and NiGHTS and how I would love to get a job there. I was bombared with questions about NiGHTS and SEGA. I hope I convinced them to look up more info on NiGHTS. X3
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Nov 13 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (MADAMOiSELLE @ Nov 13 2009, 09:15 PM)  I've put through my emails. Come on guys, if you care about NiGHTS being in the game, send off those emails! Thank you all for your support, it means alot to us as a fanbase. I'd just like to stress, this is not just about All Stars. If NiGHTS isn't in this game, then what chances do we ever have of him being seen again? This is a celebration of all things SEGA, a chance for every character to appear or make a cameo, known and unknown. If NiGHTS can't be in this game of all games, then don't hope to see him in a game ever again. This is about NiGHTS as a franchise. We are at a crutual stage in losing him forever. What we do now could be the deciding factor.
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Nov 13 2009, 09:23 PM
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wooo im in the spirit now! sent the email out as soon as i read this! as a huge NiGHTS superfan i just wana say THANKS EVERYONE!! yall made my day (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 13 2009, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE (Noctourne Wonderland @ Nov 13 2009, 06:04 PM)  I totally support this.
At the same time, why are you so sure that NiGHTS won't be included? I don't mean come across as rude, but it seems like it's to early to be totally sure. I'd say that, if you want to get down to bottom-level, we're simply voicing our concerns that NiGHTS hasn't been announced. Sega chose this progressive-reveal campaign so, obviously, they should have known that for some fans, getting close to the release date is going to cause concern. The ToeJamandEarl deal only furthers suspicions, so we're simply voicing what we want before it's too late. If they already have NiGHTS in the game, then they have nothing to worry about and we'll still feel like we did something. If not, then there's a chance to still have him added as DLC since it seems like Sumo's bit is wrapping up and Sega is only considering DLC additional content. Also, the push for NiGHTS may tip Sega off that the fans won't settle to be quiet. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Nov 13 2009, 11:34 PM
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You guys do realize that Reala was leaked right? at leat the game has some reprsentation.
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Nov 13 2009, 11:45 PM
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I think they're refering to the jokes made at Summer of Sonic. To my knowledge, Reala was not leaked anywhere.
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Nov 14 2009, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (DiGi Valentine @ Nov 13 2009, 06:45 PM)  I think they're refering to the jokes made at Summer of Sonic. To my knowledge, Reala was not leaked anywhere. Well there's the list Jof posted from 4chan that is pretty definitely fake that has Reala on it? I posted this at the Panzer Dragoon forums. It's a pretty tiny community but after listening to the podcast I'm thinking every email will help.
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Nov 14 2009, 12:21 AM
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Well I have personalized the message, but I am unsure if I should send it seeing as it seems kinda forward..I guess is the word I am looking for:
Greetings Sega Associates,
My name is Xeriea and I am from the NiGHTS fanbase. Over the years I have played all of the games, and was ecstatic when I had purchased Journey into Dreams . However, since then I have not seen hide nor hair of NiGHTS or anything affiliated with the series. I understand Sonic is important, but there are other creations from your company that make it as successful as it is today. So it would mean the world to me if I get to see NiGHTS in Sonic & SEGA AllStars Racing. He is a mascot after all, and has benefited the company. So it would only make sense as to include him in this game.
If he is not in the main game then can you please make him a DLC character? Greg Johnson, creator of ToeJam & Earl, has recently stated that DLC might be planned for AllStars Racing so if NiGHTS is not in the game, could you please make NiGHTS a DLC character. I would support it by buying NiGHTS DLC for this game.
Please let NiGHTS take part in AllStars Racing. I would hate to see this series die.
yours sincerely - Aeries Brittany Teska
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